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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"We just did to Hull KR, but what would you know.'"
You couldn't write it. They really are clueless.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Last season every clubs biggest home attendance was for their Toronto fixture, so the no away fan argument is nonsense.
There is no way Wakefield take 1000 away fans, with the exception of maybe Castleford (which is still in Wakefield so doesn’t really count).'"
Yeah because semi-pro clubs got to see pro players. You don't really understand context, do you?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Toronto already have more fans than Leigh.
[u=#FF0000Will you and thousands of other Leigh fans be traveling to Toronto for the return match later this year?
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NO, they have no ground to attend to. What a mess this farce has become.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Last season every clubs biggest home attendance was for their Toronto fixture, so the no away fan argument is nonsense.
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Great point! The way the people who want to keep the game as a ‘local sport for local people’ go on you’d think clubs were taking thousands to away games each week. We’re lucky at Wigan if we get more then 500 away speccies at games (other then when we play Saints, Wire or Leigh).
Sky has already done its best to kill away attendances anyway so having clubs like Toronto, Toulouse, New York or Perth in won’t do us any harm at all.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Toronto already have more fans than Leigh.
Will you and thousands of other Leigh fans be traveling to Toronto for the return match later this year?
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There was a smattering of English Toronto fans in attendance Jean.
Which was 100 fold more than the Catalan Dragons to any away game.
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| So there we have it. Toronto are already a bigger club than Wakefield and Leigh lol
Regards
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| Quote ="Cokey"[/u
NO, they have no ground to attend to. What a mess this farce has become.'"
Really? Where are you playing on June the 30th?
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Really? Where are you playing on June the 30th?'"
Lamport Stadium......... [size=150IF[/size it's ready.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Lamport Stadium......... [size=150IF[/size it's ready.'"
So they do have a ground you've just decided in your mind that it won't be available.
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| Toronto will give Leigh such a pasting on June 30 at Lamport Stadium, that the 20 Leigh fans in attendance will be wishing that they had not flown over there.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"So they do have a ground you've just decided in your mind that it won't be available.'"
I said IF you fool.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Toronto will give Leigh such a pasting on June 30 at Lamport Stadium, that the 20 Leigh fans in attendance will be wishing that they had not flown over there.'"
JEAN, you're obviously having orgasms over one game. Calm down dear.
BTW - How are Calamitous Catalans doing atm?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Last season every clubs biggest home attendance was for their Toronto fixture, so the no away fan argument is nonsense.'"
Just to give balance to this argument, you have to look at why this would happen.
An overseas club filled with superstars comes to town to play against your part time team ??
It's not rocket science to see that there would be some additional interest form curious RL fans.
This situation will change when they are playing tougher opposition and if Toronto become "average" rather than beating every team that they come up against (due to spending 5x as much on players), this situation would probably reverse.
I fully agree that clubs shouldn't be reliant on away support but, the atmosphere at games where there are zero away fans doesn't draw people in.
Hence the reason why the local derby matches are so interesting. THe atmosphere cranks up a few notches and there is passion from BOTH sets of fans.
In the new "world league" this atmosphere simply wont exist, it does happen already when Catalan come to town and now that they are bottom feeders, battling to avoid the drop the "draw" of playing an overseas club has disappeared completely.
Be careful what you wish for, we could well end up playing half of the fixtures against "mute" opposition and fans will not turn up if every game is like being in a library.
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| On the argument about supporting teams home or away I have been a fan of hull kr for over 55yrs and upto 10yrs ok went ever week hom and away but now I live down south and can only get their now and again so without sky would not see them and I know lots of other people that foller rugby league down we’re I live has well the game needs to spread hear has well has abroad
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| Quote ="Someday"On the argument about supporting teams home or away I have been a fan of hull kr for over 55yrs and upto 10yrs ok went =#BF0000ever week =#FF0000hom and away but now I live down south and can only get =#FF0000their now and again so without sky would not see them and I know lots of other people that =#FF0000foller rugby league down =#FF0000we’re I live =#FF0000has well the game needs to spread =#FF0000hear =#FF0000has well =#FF0000has abroad'"
Good on you old "foller." There is an English language school here in Carcassonne that is not too expensive. Would you care to enroll in it for the good of the forum?
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| Quote ="Cokey"JEAN, you're obviously having orgasms over one game. Calm down dear.
BTW - How are Calamitous Catalans doing atm?'"
Crucial Catalans narrowly lost against league leaders and premiership favourites sensational St. Helens, by three tries to two. No doubt a better performance than most Super League clubs would have been able to produce.
Everyone in southwestern France is looking forward to the return of Anthony Gigot, and to witnessing the attacking skills that he possesses. You will soon see Catalans on the winners' list.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"=#FF0000Crucial Catalans narrowly lost against league leaders and premiership favourites sensational St. Helens, by three tries to two. No doubt a better performance than most Super League clubs would have been able to produce.
Everyone in southwestern France is looking forward to the return of Anthony Gigot, and to witnessing the attacking skills that he possesses. You will soon see Catalans on the winners' list.'"
So did Leigh against a strong Saints side,but was well beaten by TW, So that doesn't mean a thing. HTH
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Good on you old "foller." There is an English language school here in Carcassonne that is not too expensive. Would you care to =#FF0000enroll in it for the good of the forum?'"
While we are on the subject of correcting errors in spelling and grammar, this in fact is the North American spelling of the word 'enrol' To the best of my knowledge, non-American, English speaking folk, (including those from France and Chorley) would spell it with just one 'l'. Maybe you were aiming that comment at our friends from Toronto?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Crucial =#FF0000Catalans narrowly lost against league leaders and premiership favourites sensational St. Helens, by three tries to two. No doubt a better performance than most Super League clubs would have been able to produce.
Everyone in southwestern France is looking forward to the return of Anthony Gigot, and to witnessing the attacking skills that he possesses. You will soon see Catalans on the winners' list.'"
Saints had a player red-carded early in the second half. Yet clumsy Catalans could not benefit from having the extra man, on their home ground.
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| Quote ="Alan"Saints had a player red-carded early in the second half. Yet clumsy Catalans could not benefit from having the extra man, on their home ground.
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Sensational St. Helens could beat most teams while playing with only twelve men -- that is how good they are. Convivial Catalans only had the one man advantage for 17 minutes -- and they were not far off from winning..
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| Quote ="Cokey"I said IF you fool.'"
Not in your first post you didn't
"NO, they have no ground to attend to. What a mess this farce has become."
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| Looks like Brave Barrow and Fearless Fev are doing their best to stop Lenegan's wet dream becoming a reality.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Looks like Brave Barrow and Fearless Fev are doing their best to stop Lenegan's wet dream becoming a reality.'"
What a vicious and uncouth attack on the most intelligent and cultured entrepreneur in rugby league. Ian Lenagan deserves the respect of everyone for his strategic clarity and foresight.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"What a vicious and uncouth attack on the most intelligent and cultured entrepreneur in rugby league. Ian Lenagan deserves the respect of everyone for his strategic clarity and foresight.'"
Jean, mon ami, I fear you are right. My post was both tasteless and uncalled for; only one second had elapsed after I submitted it before I regretted its disrespectful content. I only hope I haven't offended your delicate sensibilities too badly, or indeed those of M. Lenagan.
Mis-spelling his name was inexcusable.
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| Interesting scoreline from Cumbria today. Looks like it might be a pretty competitive Championship this year.
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