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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"That will be down to his Salford upbringing.'"
I refuse to believe a player of Morelys quality is from Salford.
Then again.....he is a lunatic.....so its hard to deny.
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| is morley married now . cause his eastern suburbs aussie girlfreind was hot
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| He's got a young lad so I would assume so.
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| Quote ="changa"is morley married now . cause his eastern suburbs aussie girlfreind was hot
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If you're referring to his missus (so to speak). She's a northerner.
Before that there was a kiwi.
Typical aussie. Claiming another kiwi to be australian
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| Quote ="Dico"He's got a young lad so I would assume so.'"
If he is from Salford than he will have followed the crowd and had him early.
His son is actually 27.
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| Peacock and Morley p**s all over your supposedly awesome Cinavaceva and Price. Your forwards arent as good as ours your backs are always whats wins you games against us. Wacthed the NRL this year and Ellis has been good in every game he has settled into the rythm and slower style of play in the NRL
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| must be the pace in the backs
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| Morley and Ellis were quality international standard players before they went to Oz. Even Carney walked into the NRL and finished top scorer in the league in his only season there. Im not sure how much it helps our RL having them play over there, maybe the kids for a couple of years but SL is genuinely improving at last so better to hold onto them.
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| god we are deluding ourselves!
there is not one player i can think of in this years SL thats could do the same as Ellis Morley and Carney
its competative...sure
its exciting......yes
its quality .....er no not from the english players
ffs keith senior is still our best centre
we dont have a stand off in the country
english second rows and loose forwards i think not
not even hookers now cunninghams past his best,
maybe maybe at a pinch james roby, leon price??cant think of any others!
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| Quote ="chapster"there is not one player i can think of in this years SL thats could do the same as Ellis Morley and Carney'"
I proffer Peacock, Graham and Burgess.
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| I also think Brough could if he could keep hes discipline. He has everything size, speed, defence good kicking game and dictates the game. I think Burgess and Peacock could too but i agree our backs are so far behind the Aussies its unreal
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| Are you joking?
Brough.....quality?
He would be a park footballer over here!
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| Quote ="oggy123"I also think Brough could if he could keep hes discipline. He has everything size, speed, defence good kicking game and dictates the game.'"
Don't agree with this.
Quote I think Burgess and Peacock could too but i agree our backs are so far behind the Aussies its unreal'"
This, however, I think is pretty much spot on.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"SL is genuinely improving at last so better to hold onto them.'"
Unfortunately I don't think it is, and if it is it isn't translating to the International side, the closest we have been to Australia in recent years is 2003 and 2004 but we had an ageing squad, last year was quite frankly embarrassing!
And if the SL is improving and bringing new players through the problem is the NRL is also improving and bringing many more youngsters through.
having said that I do hope that England on their own soild can put in a much improved performance than last year, well it cant get any worse to be fair!
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| Quote ="christopher"Unfortunately I don't think it is, and if it is it isn't translating to the International side, the closest we have been to Australia in recent years is 2003 and 2004 but we had an ageing squad, last year was quite frankly embarrassing!
And if the SL is improving and bringing new players through the problem is the NRL is also improving and bringing many more youngsters through.
having said that I do hope that England on their own soild can put in a much improved performance than last year, well it cant get any worse to be fair!'"
And in 2003 England got swept in that series against probably the worst Australian team and the worst coach Australian team of all time.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"And in 2003 England got swept in that series against probably the worst Australian team and the worst coach Australian team of all time.'"
As Ive said before I'm not saying we were good, just better than the last few years, at least we were very competitive across a whole series against a side in green and gold, something which we haven't been for a few years.
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| I tend to think these days Englands competitive games are more of a fluke than anything else.
I think the thrashing are the norm.
NOW....today. I'm looking at all these supposed young players, young stars and next big things that are supposed to be coming into the England side...and it scares me.
I mean, these kids are so far off the pace of players like Folau, Jennings, Inglis and co. Its like reserve grade footballers against world class athletes, I dont think its even fair.
I really think that by the 2013 World Cup England will but 5th or 6th in the world.
Australia is ok, New Zealand is going good, Samoa and Tonga are pumping out great players all the time.....Fiji and are just good......its very reasonable to suggest that England are about to fall right off the radar.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"
Australia is ok, New Zealand is going good, Samoa and Tonga are pumping out great players all the time.....Fiji and are just good......its very reasonable to suggest that England are about to fall right off the radar.'"
I just hope that players Like Hayne and Jennings for the sake of the comp play for the same teams as they did in 2008, although it is a fair way off and I'm sure there will be other players as good as those playing for the like of samoa and fiji, those teams IMO were the success of the last world cup, it was a joy to watch teams play with so much passion for their chosen country, I would also put Ireland up there with them as they were also a supprise in the comp, they all put England and France for that matter to shame.
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| mcguire could do very well in the nrl.
its more the forwards though that will catch on quickly.
there arent too many halves that would stand out, long wouldve done well if hed come over earlier
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| McGuire is ****ed!
As for Hayne and Jennings, they will play for Australia. Both born and raised here. They only playewd for other countries because Australia didnt select them.
That loophole BS needs to end.
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| so there for shouldnt be allowed to play for Aus again its a joke that side of the world the way they can chop and change between countrys. And not a chance England and Austrailia will be the big 2 in the 2013 world cup i think our young players are just as good as yours you have us in the backs no doubt but our pack would all over yours.
Macarthy Scarsbrook
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Then on the bench you have the likes of
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| Quote ="oggy123"Then on the bench you have the likes of Hargreaves '" WTF??
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| Quote ="oggy123"so there for shouldnt be allowed to play for Aus again its a joke that side of the world the way they can chop and change between countrys. And not a chance England and Austrailia will be the big 2 in the 2013 world cup i think our young players are just as good as yours you have us in the backs no doubt but our pack would mickey all over yours.
Macarthy Scarsbrook
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Then on the bench you have the likes of
L. Burgess Clough Hargreaves Prescott'"
Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to play for the Island nations?
They are Australian Nationals.
The World Cup wont look to good in 2013 if Australians don't pad out the smaller teams.
I hope they change the rule so that when a choice is made its final either way.
As far as the forwards go I heard all this last October about the Kiwis and Oz forwards would be dominated big time by Englands power pack.
It didn't really work out anything like that in reality though did it?
Some of the unproven names at Test level you mention have a long way to go before they are better than Morley and Peacock in their prime and they won how many series against Oz?
I really hope England do go up a couple of gears the game has needed it for the last 30 years.
Things go in cycles maybe you will be right.
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| Oh no....he is right....Englands pack of forwards will have it all over Australia.
We never recovered once Steve Roach retired.....
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