Not something that you hear very often but, I'm good with that !
It wont be as hard to pick out the players at Cas, the terracing is nice and close to the pitch and it's not too far to the other end

We went very close last season if I seem to remember! All it needed was a bit of composure from BJB and we’d probably have taken the two points!

The gap has closed over the last couple of seasons though...a couple of seasons they were light years ahead of us...with the Gale, Hardaker, Shenton, Eden combination ripping teams apart and the likes of Millington and Moors causing havoc every week in the middle. They’re not that side anymore...they’re still good, no question about that but I don’t think there’s the fear of playing them like there was that team.

What we must do is play for each other like we did yesterday and get up in their faces...if we can snuff out Austin, Widdop and Clarke like we did there’s no reason we can’t do the same with Trueman, Richardson and McShane. If we stop those three it will go a long way to see us winning...what we can’t do is stand off and give them time and space otherwise they’ll kick us to death.

We’ve got to get the big men running at Richardson too...make him work for the full 80 as that’s definitely his weak side...

If we’ve two or three fully fit forwards I’d bring them in to freshen the pack up with it being a 5 day turnaround and how tough conditions were yesterday...that’s how you succeed these days...use the squad correctly and you’ll cut down on injuries...no other changes need to be made...the back 5 were great yesterday...solid defensively and all made good, hard yards early in the tackle count to help the forwards out and Max was solid at FB...

I go there with hope more than expectation!

That, unfortunately, is where stats fail to tell the full story, that's why there use is limited. Yes, the errors were there but very very few were in places or at times that were ever going to cause us problems. Errors and penalties are only a problem if you concede them at the wrong moment. Penalties can even be a good thing, conceding two points or some metres for a bit of time can change a game in your favour.

That's what was right about yesterday, nearly all the errors were forced, credit to Warrington and only one of the penalties we conceded was what I'd call stupid. Same stats in the same situations against Cas and we are in with a shout, start making silly errors and giving away stupid penalties and we can wave the game goodbye.

As for gingers I have to say there are far less in th game than there used to be but then there are quite a few more 'strawberry blondes'

No silly penalties keep the half backs quiet and get in their faces . I can see a win.

Exactly - it was the polar opposite to the HKR game. Every mistake we made there was just as we were getting a foothold in the game or when they had sent the big kick up from being penned in their own half.

Much better yesterday.

As for Cas, its always a tough trip there and it rare they have a bad game at the Jumble. No reason why we cant win though, keep that level of defensive effort up and get good set completion and its anybodies game.

I always think that Cas play far better at BV and it's at the Jungle where we seem to do better. Don't know the numbers but all the great victories I remember against Cas seem very Jungle orientated, might be wrong.

Yeah theres truth in that - definitely historically, I think its just the games at Cas it seems like no matter what we do lately we cant get the win.

Not the team they were, but still a very dangerous side.

We came close last year, and also in the home fixtures in 2017 and 2018, and it does seem a mental thing, as in both games we were winning for long periods.

The last time we beat them in a competitive game was 2015

We need to get in their faces from the off, and not stand off their danger men. Unfortunately, I feel it is a trait we have done too often in the past, against all sides, not just Castleford

McShane is the man that makes them tic, his decision making and game management are first class, he is tough in defense, gets his forwards on the front foot. His kicking is excellent especially attacking kicks near the line.

I agree. They have a lot of match winners but it all starts with him.

I'm not buying the mental thing, maybe our fans have that affliction but I highly doubt the players have.
Cas is a big game, bigger than Wigan ?, bigger than St's ?, I don't think so, they're all big games one way or another and the players will be approaching each game accordingly.
You could argue the team has a mental hoodoo for big games generally and rationalize that, but a particularly heavy hoodoo for Cas....Nah, they've just been better and luckier when it counts.

It most certainly is a mental thing against Cas. Wasn’t there recently a home game where we were 12 or 16-0 up at half time and they scored something like 28 unanswered points.

Yes, sort of. In 2017, we were 16-0 up at half time, only to throw it away. We did get back in the lead, but they came back again. This was the game when Fififa, went celebrating in front of Cas lot, when he thought he'd won the game, only for it to bite us on the backside

Not a good birthday celebration for me that night

Hopefully he puts things right on Friday.

Was filming with RugbyAM tonight I think.

The Cas bubble against us has got to burst sometime, the law of averages and all that. We've got to look at yesterday's game as a datum point and adopt the same effort and ethos to get that Castleford monkey off our backs. Was the last tome we won there when the floodlight blew up??

No Agar was in charge that night I think.

Think the game against Cas we lost at home when we were 16 points up at half time was lost through a drop goal in the last second ..Can not believe we have not bet Cas since 2015 was that when the lights were on Fire . Know over the last 5 year we have come close but can not get over the line. No pun intended

Yes your right mc Shane is the glue that holds the side together get in his face and disrupt his influence on the game. Obviously they aren't a one trick pony but if we can play with that intensity on fri and maybe up our anti in the kicking game we will put our selfs in a good position to come away with a win .

Welcome to my world. I was saying this on commentary. From the side view of the pitch the numbers aren't visible if the players a re side on and I kept getting Kopi and Westerman mixed up as well as Tangata and Navarette. Tanginoa has a distinct running style so is a little easier.

Don’t agree, your argument makes no sense to me. I accept it’s probably not collective in that I doubt it means anything to say Josh Wood at the moment. However had he been with us for a few years now it certainly would.

Ditto Cas, you can see how much it means to certain of their players. Basically not all the players are caught up in the emotion of it but there are far more than normal who feel it. That’s what makes derbies, if it wasn’t the case then they wouldn’t be special would they!

Derbies are very much a mental thing and hoodoos most certainly do exist imo and long may it continue. I just want it to reverse.

I'm going to back us for the win, just on the law of averages

Cas have been our bogey team this past few years

The lights were on fire during the easter thursday game of 2013, ian millward was in charge. You were winning easily enough when the game was halted with 7 minutes to go.

2015 was the last time you beat us, first game of the season I think we were 26 10 in front with 13 minutes to go and you scored 3 unanswered tries to win the game after we declined to take the 2 when we were 16 in front as it did appear that comfortable.

I generally do expect a bit of a reaction from us after a poor defeat like saturday.

Thanks for info hope weather not as bad as they are saying we could get wet

Cant wait its on tv over here

Must have paid your license then