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| Quote ="Call Me God"
2. " I’m told the RFL knows of people in Ireland willing to invest in rugby league."
Let's start with #2. The RFL don't know anyone in West Yorkshire willing to invest in RL, let alone Ireland
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Perhaps the people investing in a club in the Irish Capital don’t want to invest in a club in a small Northern town.
Why wasn’t David Argyle interested in taking over Salford or Leigh? You’d have to ask him, but he’s certainly willing to pump his money into The Toronto Wolfpack, when he wasn’t willing to do that for those other clubs.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Perhaps the people investing in a club in the Irish Capital don’t want to invest in a club in a small Northern town. '"
Who are these investors?
The quote states that "I’m told the RFL knows of people in Ireland willing to invest in rugby league.".......why does he ramble on about having a business plan, looking for a tie in with an airline sponsor to cover costs and if final proof were needed that the business plan is written on the back of a beer-mat, we have " and every major company has offices in Dublin".....a statement that is both vague and pointing to this being an idea and a non sustainable one at that.......for example, I'd counter that London has more corporate HQ's of international Giants than Dublin has satellite offices of those companies
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Why wasn’t David Argyle interested in taking over Salford or Leigh? You’d have to ask him, but he’s certainly willing to pump his money into The Toronto Wolfpack, when he wasn’t willing to do that for those other clubs.'"
David Argyle was sold an idea by Perez.....the absence of Perez from the club as early as yer 2 as well as the apparent disputes regarding various suppliers and flights back into Glasgow point to not everything being rosy at Toronto, who also whined about the expense of the qualifiers if they weren't allowed play in blocks of 4 games.....Argyle is minted and will maybe hang around, but only as long as he gets his way and there are plenty of strong chairmen and owners in SL already......as MarwanK discovered.
Happy to proven wrong, but there's not the audience for RL in Dublin, especially as they'll be a team made up of 80% failed Union players......
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| Oh...the choice of name will alienate the other 31 counties. The Dublin GAA side play in Blue......
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Oh...the choice of name will alienate the other 31 counties. The Dublin GAA side play in Blue......'"
So do Cavan, Longford, Laois, Tipperary and Wicklow.
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Happy to proven wrong, but there's not the audience for RL in Dublin, especially as they'll be a team made up of 80% failed Union players......'"
Why do RLfans always claim we have the greatest game on earth, but dismiss out of hand RL’s chance of success outside the m62 corridor. That’s something I’ve never been able to understand.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It takes under 1 hour to fly to Dublin, they could travel there and back on the same day if they wish.'"
Correct Kev, I regularly fly out on the 6:40 from Leeds Bradford, Manchester or Liverpool to Dublin and return at around tea time.
Most the time you’ll get it for £20 as well!
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It takes under 1 hour to fly to Dublin, they could travel there and back on the same day if they wish.'"
How about passport control, security checks and baggage reclaim?
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| Lol@the brexiteer flatcappers in this thread.
Rugby league fans wouldn’t look out of place in an episode of league of gentlemen
Regards
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| Quote ="silver2"How about passport control, security checks and baggage reclaim?'"
How about them?
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| Chance for MascordBrownz to make a few quid out pf selling dublin merch at magic
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| This will never work. Even with the mergers we can’t fit Dublin and Belgrade into superleague.
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"So do Cavan, Longford, Laois, Tipperary and Wicklow.'"
None of whom play their home games in Dublin (although I did play for Wicklow Minors in 1983)......
A Jackeen side will not represent the country and will therefore need to draw it's gates from Dublin alone......and to start with they want to play in Santry Stadum before moving to Tallaght. Starting in the North of Dublin before moving South....sounds like he might not be too bright this Kieron Brown.
As for Kieron Brown? How is Lancashire Irish Going? Their Facebook Page has 200 likes......sorry, but this is just someone thinking if Perez can do it, anyone can
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| I wouldn't mind an Irish side and a Scottish side in SL but what are the chances of the usual suspects jumping on the bandwagon.
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| Quote ="silver2"How about passport control, security checks and baggage reclaim?'"
That's really not a reason not to do something
Every time I've caught the 6:40am from Lba to Dublin, I've been in Central Dublin before 9am.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"That's really not a reason not to do something
Every time I've caught the 6:40am from Lba to Dublin, I've been in Central Dublin before 9am.'"
The issue here is not the time it takes to fly to Dublin, but the costs associated with it as well as the logistics.......not to mention the "brains" behind this has 200 likes for his last venture that is now 18 months old.....
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| If social media likes qualify someone to run a club, Marwan Koukash is your man. Ahh he already failed miserably.
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| Be a good weekend away when I go to watch my beloved Leigh in League 1
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| Quote ="Call Me God"The issue here is not the time it takes to fly to Dublin, but the costs associated with it as well as the logistics.......not to mention the "brains" behind this has 200 likes for his last venture that is now 18 months old.....'"
The costs I will grant you, but this is where this idea that everyone has to start in L1 doesn't help. If we see the expense of paying in Dublin as an opportunity cost (and I think we should), asking PT clubs who can I'll-afford that cost puts any expansion venture on the back foot.
Don't get me wrong, based on what I've read so far regarding a Dublin team, it strikes me as a bit "fag packet"', but I don't think that the logistics of a 45 minute hop across the Irish Sea is a big enough barrier. I've planned events in Ireland and Amsterdam from the UK, and logistically it's no more difficult than one in London
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"So do Cavan, Longford, Laois, Tipperary and Wicklow.'"
Cavan would have a clash with Swinton, Longford and Wicklow would clash kits with Warrington. and Laois would clash with Leeds
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| Quote ="wildshot"And how do we expect all these part time players in the lower leagues to take all the time off work to go to the away games?'"
Think of the children.....
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Why do RLfans always claim we have the greatest game on earth, but dismiss out of hand RL’s chance of success outside the m62 corridor. That’s something I’ve never been able to understand.'"
Me neither. fans think they own the game and should never be shared by non-flatcappers. Holt's Bitter run through their veins...
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"If social media likes qualify someone to run a club, Marwan Koukash is your man. Ahh he already failed miserably.'"
No thanks. Mr Pallywood is an embarrassment to the sport.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Why do RLfans always claim we have the greatest game on earth, but dismiss out of hand RL’s chance of success outside the m62 corridor. That’s something I’ve never been able to understand.'"
Success? Define Success!
London, whilst not a total disaster, still failed in Superleague, but now seem to have found their level as a Top tier Championship club, with a good youth set up, albeit at the say so of their benefactor.
Other than that, we've had PNG and Crusaders, both who were "backed by benefactors" who expected the SKY funding to be enough to run a SL club ......it wasn't!
Then in the tiers below SL we have Skolars, Newcastle, North Wales, Toulouse and Toronto, the latter of which whom are starting to look a lot like Crusaders in that they are almost frothing at the mouth in anticipation of the £1.8 million in funding next year (as are some of their suppliers)....it still won't be enough and to cmpete Argyle will need to drop £2 million a year for a decade.....Toronto are getting "PSGesque" crowds and seem to have a bit of razzmatazz about them, but next year in SL they will be dealing with much bigger fish, so the Jury is still out. Hemel don't play in Hemel, West Wales are a basket case and lest we forget...Gloucester and Oxford.......where did they get to?
It's not that RL fans want expansion to fail, it's just that done as a stand alone SL rich mans toy it has failed so far and done as "from the bottom up" scenario, it takes 2 decades or more and we've broken a lot of eggs in the process for no omlette.....Toronto are a Hybrid and may well buck the trend, but Dublin, with 10 of their starting 13 as Union Players not up to scratch, playing in the North of Dublin before moving south, run by a guy who runs Lancashire Irish RL with its 200 likes on FB, with no sponsors and with no backers other than some people that apparently "want to invest" according to a bloke that knows some other bloke at the RFL is as pie in the sky as it gets.
As HMcN, the funding guy at Skolars about setting up in a strange town with a strange game on a limited budget and with no pedigree or heritage........He should be Knighted for his services to RL, but the reality is his side after 23 years in existence and 16 years in the top tiers are a bottom 5 club out of the 38 we have in those top 3 tiers.....or better still, ask any London Broncos fan what would happen if David Hughes was to pull his backing....and it's not just outside SL either......Look at what happened to one of our only 4 winners of SL to date. Bradford wouldn't exist as the entity they are now without the benevolence of the RFL......and if, as expected, Bradford and York go up, then the Dublin Blues will be joining a division with an average attendance of 500 or so......
...so no. I am not dismissing this imaginary team "out of hand" but with the knowledge and research of seeing the multiple failures that have gone before.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"
Why wasn’t David Argyle interested in taking over Salford or Leigh? You’d have to ask him, .'"
He was , he offered to buy Leigh , but was turned down , so I wonder what his plan was there ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"He was , he offered to buy Leigh , but was turned down , so I wonder what his plan was there ?'"
Pie Canon?
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