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| Quote ="tugglesf78"It is easy for me to say this because you have lost, but Graham is in no way Skipper material.
He has started to look for the easy route more often than not and seems to believe that the opposition will fall for his last minute pass, even though he has started trying it more often than not. It was a neat little trick 2 years ago but it is blatantly obvious to anyone what will happen.
He really went into hiding tonight and seemed more than happy to let others run the ball out of Saints half.
He might have been injured mind you, he was in a bit of a state after than huge hit from Carvell.
HE has made his name as a pure athlete that will just keep picking the ball up time and time again, relentlessly.
He needs to get back to doing that because he just looks so jaded atm'"
Totally agree he is either suffering from burnout or his mind his elsewhere (NRL?). I think he tries to do too much, as you suggest tries to be a prop, captain and half back. Someone needs to reign him in or drop him for a few matches.
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| James Graham needs to stop whinging at the ref and realise that when he's not getting wound up by other, more experienced props, he's in the top two or three in the country.
Eastmond is clearly not good enough for super league.
Roby, Wellens, Flannery and Clough were good for Saints tonight.
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| get lomax in the halves! The more games he plays at 6 or 7 the better he will become! Was awesome for orrell and saints reserves at half back!
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"get lomax in the halves! The more games he plays at 6 or 7 the better he will become! Was awesome for orrell and saints reserves at half back!'"
Gaskell looks like a talent also. Looked a little timid tonight but early days for the lad.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"James Graham needs to stop whinging at the ref and realise that when he's not getting wound up by other, more experienced props, he's in the top two or three in the country.
Eastmond is clearly not good enough for super league.
Roby, Wellens, Flannery and Clough were good for Saints tonight.'"
Thats a big statement. Eastwood at his best has ripped up defences!
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| When no one knew that he didn't like getting hit in the first 5 minutes of a game. What exactly are his amazing attributes? Pace.....oh. That's it.
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| Quote ="kobashi"Thats a big statement. Eastwood at his best has ripped up defences!'"
But he is currently not anywhere near his best.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"But he is currently not anywhere near his best.'"
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"get lomax in the halves! The more games he plays at 6 or 7 the better he will become! Was awesome for orrell and saints reserves at half back!'"
100% agree mate. Give jonny 3 or 4 weeks at standoff and they will never look back. But how long will this take? Last 2/3 weeks Pryce and Wheeler have been injured, the chance to give Lomax a break has been there on a plate. But they have stuck in Gaskell who is no doubt promising but he is from Lomax's age group and has never been anywhere near the same class that Jonny is. FOR GOD SAKES SIMMONS PLAY HIM AT SIX!!! It is winding me up and saints aren't even my team!!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Thats what i've said - he knows he's leaving and his performance so far has been mor ea case fo going through the motions - if people dont want to play our sport we should throw them to the rah-rah's immediately !!'" Yeah you only had to watch his reaction when Saint's scored or should that be his none reaction.
The team were celebrating and he just walked away from what I could see.
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| Eastmond and Graham have become like spoiled brats. It could be seen last night 2 or 3 times when Eastmond through a crap pass and caused a knock on he then preferred to go mental at the player who dropped the ball.
He needs slapping down a bit.
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| Quote ="Fully"Eastwood?
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Sorry i read that as Eastmond last night when i was sleepy. Ignore it.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Sorry i read that as Eastmond last night when i was sleepy. Ignore it.'"
Sorry mate - my post was aimed at the original poster, who I think meant Eastmond but put Eastwood....stupid quoting system!
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| Sack Eastmond off
Lomax at Scrum half
Wilkin at Stand off
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| Quote ="mistermoo"Totally agree he is either suffering from burnout or his mind his elsewhere (NRL?). I think he tries to do too much, as you suggest tries to be a prop, captain and half back. Someone needs to reign him in or drop him for a few matches.'"
I think it's simpler than that. He thinks he's better than he is.
The sooner he stops believing his own hype, the sooner he will start being a good player again.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"I think it's simpler than that. He thinks he's better than he is.
The sooner he stops believing his own hype, the sooner he will start being a good player again.'"
That's just another way of saying what I had written.
He tries to do much (thinks he is better than he is at distribution etc.), better to do what he got his name for (running the ball in hard and not moaning at everything!)
He needs to be dropped for a few weeks IMO.
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| Ooooh it's another 'Rugby League player might be going to Rugby union so lets burn him' thread
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| Quote ="Fully"Sorry mate - my post was aimed at the original poster, who I think meant Eastmond but put Eastwood....stupid quoting system!
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In that case my original point stands!!!
I think??
Bit confused now tbh
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www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/582
Eastmond apologises to the Saints fans for his behaviour. Sounds like he is definately leaving at the end of the season though.
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Eastmond apologises to the Saints fans for his behaviour. Sounds like he is definately leaving at the end of the season though.
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| For me he can go now.
You can see his heart is not in it and his mind is elsewhere,just p155 off to the dark side and we can concentrate on playing proper rugby.
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| one thing eddie definately didnt get right was claiming on friday night that warringtons last superleague game at the stobart was against widnes in 2008. i must have imagined the past several years in the championship.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"That's just another way of saying what I had written.
He tries to do much (thinks he is better than he is at distribution etc.), better to do what he got his name for (running the ball in hard and not moaning at everything!)
He needs to be dropped for a few weeks IMO.'"
He's been playing with an injury and having painkilling injections so far this season and whilst he is perhaps passing the ball too often at the moment if this means he avoids a long term injury by taking the ball up with his usual gusto every set then so be it. If he was to do 'what he got his name for' every week he'd likely suffer a Fielden-style burn-out before long, which would be of no use to either Saints or England.
If you knew James rather than just going off what you see on TV and believing other people's opinions you'd know it is not a case of him believing his own hype. And frankly if you had people trying to take your head off every tackle I think you'd complain once or twice too.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"He's been playing with an injury and having painkilling injections so far this season and whilst he is perhaps passing the ball too often at the moment if this means he avoids a long term injury by taking the ball up with his usual gusto every set then so be it. If he was to do 'what he got his name for' every week he'd likely suffer a Fielden-style burn-out before long, which would be of no use to either Saints or England.
If you knew James rather than just going off what you see on TV and believing other people's opinions you'd know it is not a case of him believing his own hype. And frankly if you had people trying to take your head off every tackle I think you'd complain once or twice too.'"
He needs to do his job by taking the ball up and not passing at every opportunity, if he cant do his job he shouldn't be playing. No team can afford a weak link.
I am well capable of forming my own opinion, and expressing it; I don't need to listen to the muppets on Sky or anyone else.
I didn't realise I had to be a personal friend to comment on a player's performance. I'll bear that in mind next time.
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| Eastmound look like a player not wanting to get injured and spoil his retirement fund to me. A player who hasn't fulfilled his teenage potential. He will be a superstar in ru
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