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| Quote ="Dave Lister"So therefore, kicking at the ref on a regular basis could be a reasonable idea, if you get another 6. I wonder if anyone will try it
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Hopefully kicking smack into his face or personal area.
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| Correct call
definition of attacking team is the team with territorial advantage not possession of ball
and he didn't say knock on - try he said clock on
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| Its the same as off loading at the same time the ref calls held. Its an attcking scrum regardless of the tackle count.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"Its the same as off loading at the same time the ref calls held. Its an attcking scrum regardless of the tackle count.'"
It does seem odd that an attacking team can get a second set for just being "accurate" when kicking. Does the ref have the option of a handover if he thinks it was a deliberate action, or are his hands tied?
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| Quote ="south of the river"
and he didn't say knock on - try he said clock on'"
Thanks for that
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| My mate's happy. Leahy is his tutor at school.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"It does seem odd that an attacking team can get a second set for just being "accurate" when kicking. Does the ref have the option of a handover if he thinks it was a deliberate action, or are his hands tied?'"
I wouldnt think that there will be an option for refs discretion, although i'm not sure (Ganson chose to ignore a rule at Cas/Rovers the other week )
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| Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Jog on, that can't be right?
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| Quote ="Panda92"My mate's happy. Leahy is his tutor at school.'"
What does he teach?
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| Thats a new one on me
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| What's the ruling if the ball sinks beneath all that mud?
I'm too young for this to have been the 'norm' in rugby league as I've only been watching since the summer area - certainly great for novelty factor and I bet plenty on here will argue "that's how the game should be played"...
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Say what?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Spot on. Someones been reading the rulebook.
Quote ="Secton 6, paragraph 3(e)"
an attacking player carrying the ball comes into
contact with the Referee or a Touch Judge or an
encroaching spectator in the opponents’ in-goal
and play is thereby irregularly affected.'"
The same would apply if the ball is kicked by the attacking team (with territorial advantage) as play has still been irregularly affected.
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| Thats not right, as mentionned
Quote an attacking player carrying the ball comes into
contact with the Referee or a Touch Judge or an
encroaching spectator in the opponents’ in-goal
and play is thereby irregularly affected.'"
But if the ball is kicked at the referee its a goal line drop out
Quote Drop-out from 4. The game is restarted with a drop-out by a
Goal line defending player from the centre of his goal line if:
(a) a defending player last touches the ball before it
goes over the dead ball line or into touch in-goal.
(b) a defending player accidentally infringes in the
in-goal area.
(c) a defending player touches down in the in-goal
area.
(d) a defending player in possession is tackled in the
in-goal area.
(e) a defending player kicks the ball into touch on
the full from his own in-goal.
(f) a defending player kicks or passes the ball in his
own in-goal and the ball accidentally strikes an
opponent and goes into touch in-goal or over the
dead ball line.
(g) the ball or a defending player carrying the ball
touches the referee, a touch judge or an
encroaching spectator in the in-goal area and
play is thereby irregularly affected.
(h) the ball goes over the dead ball line or into touch
in-goal other than on the full from a kick off from
the centre of the halfway line .
(i) where a kick is made dead by a defending
player straddling the dead ball line or touch in
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| anyways thought the ref had a good game tonight given the testing conditions
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| Quote ="the artist"anyways thought the ref had a good game tonight given the testing conditions'"
especially the play (at) the ball
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| unlike the video ref who gave a very harsh obstruction call when disallowing a try.
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| Quote ="FourthOfficial"Thats not right, as mentionned
But if the ball is kicked at the referee its a goal line drop out
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Didn't read that far down. You learn something new everyday.
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| If the ref is of the opinion that an attacking team is purposely kicking at him, in order to get a repeat set, there's always the old catch-all of "ungentlemanly conduct"
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| Quote ="serge le forge"unlike the video ref who gave a very harsh obstruction call when disallowing a try.'"
Harsh maybe, but right. The defender was clearly delayed in starting his run towards the man with the ball by the dummy runner. He would have got closer to making the tackle if the dummy runner hadn't got in his way.
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| I was right behind that. It was clear our guy being impeded was what opened up the gap in the line.
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| Why should they get a repeat set? If it hits the ref on tackle 5, have a play the ball from where it was kicked on tackle 5.
It's like a few years ago when if you were held up over the line you got another set of 6, even if it was on tackle 4 (or maybe even 5??). A rather ridiculous rule.
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| Quote ="SaintMarshy"Why should they get a repeat set? If it hits the ref on tackle 5, have a play the ball from where it was kicked on tackle 5.
It's like a few years ago when if you were held up over the line you got another set of 6, even if it was on tackle 4 (or maybe even 5??). A rather ridiculous rule.'"
It's obviously an old rule from when possession wasn't as vital as it is now, thats just never been updated. Probably because it happens that rarely.
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