bit of a contradiction

such cynicism oh yea of little faith

Quote ="chubbs1981"such cynicism oh yea of little faith '" viewtopic.php?t=402341 Interesting reading here , it didn't take long

Quote ="chubbs1981"such cynicism oh yea of little faith '" viewtopic.php?t=402341 Interesting reading here , it didn't take long

well a contradiction yes indeed it is here to stay. for now was a sarcastic quip to end the line. owing to the fact that its a shocking idea and will no doubt be abandoned when the RFL realise what damage it will do to the lower leagues look at the NFL what happend to their lower leagues? look at the super 14, and the drain on local talent and fans

What an odd thing to say.

Michael.

all this does is show a team followed by fair weather supporters to me. surely if you love the game you'd want to watch the best teams at the top level even if your team are awful. not bailing out because the game has as they see it no purpose. should we just call them off them to save the players getting injured in a pointless contest. people talking crap.

crusaders have 0 points so far and i still travel 332miles round trip to watch thier home games when i can. 2 out of the 3 shedualed so far. quins on easter monday.

I don't think you'll be far wrong there but I think Toulouse will be definately in. I think next time round one team will be relegated (the RFL will need to show they've got the balls to relegate underperforming clubs otherwise the whole process becomes a farce).

In addition to Toulouse, Widnes or Leigh will likely be promoted both clubs being passed over last time for the flimsiest or reasons.

After that though, existing SL clubs will have had at least 6 years worth of Sky money to enhance themselves so it appears to become much harder for teams outside of SL to get themselves in a position to compete.

The obvious exception being an expansion club with a multi millionaire backer who is prepared to pump millions into a club for 3 years on the chance that they might get selected to SL. Now what self respecting millionaire is going to pump millions into a new venture like this without some assurance of a return.

In case you didn't notice, Toulouse is being groomed for a place in Super League.

Also, Wakefield's inability to get a Super League standard stadium will likely doom its reapplication bid in 2011.

Leigh has been deemed redundant by the new head of Sports England.

My guess is that in 2011 we will be informed that Wakefield have beeen relegated, and new licences have been granted to Toulouse, Widnes, and either Sheffield or Doncaster.

2014 may well see serious consideration of a second London club bid, as well as Newcastle/Gateshead, a Scottish club, an Irish club, Paris and Barcelona.

Those of the above not successful, or not considered, in 2014, are likely to be considered in 2017.

Do you have a link to that ?

Not that I dont believe you , I do , it's just it would be funny to actually see him saying it

the point of my original post is that what would be the point in relegating anyone? you'll just have for example the salford/celtic 2011 squad bar a few exceptions playing in a 2012, widness/leigh/tolouse strip as they'd all be released on the teams relegation and be looking for a club granted the cream of the squad will to snapped up by other teams but the journeyman players will be looking to the new team for a job

Dead right , it would be crazy to drop any club as it would probably completely destroy that club , It's one thing awarding a SL place 3 months before , but an entirely different thing taking one away with 3 months of the season left , with no prospect of getting back for at least 3 years but more likely ever

Several of the clubs, especially Wakefield and Castleford, were given licenses on a kind of informal probabtion. Richard Lewis warned clubs that they had to satisfy certain explicit criteria, including an adequate stadium, if they were to have their licenses renewed. Wakefield will fail the stadium criterion, and possibly other criteria, in 2011. This will ease the west Yorkshire saturation of the Super League roster, and make room for some new, commercially attractive expansion clubs, like Toulouse, Sheffield/Doncaster, Newcastle/Gateshead, East London etc. in 2011 and subsequent years.

It was stated in a private conversation with someone on this board. It may also have been stated in another context, perhaps even in writing. But Leigh's proximity to Wigan, and perhaps its juniors set up and its crowds, will lilely doom its chances given the stated critieria for a licence.

No link then

Not at this stage. But I will keep looking and keep you posted.

Appreciate it thanks

aren't sheffield and doncaster in west yorks ok southwest. write them off then. toulouse i can see that however what is the average away attendence to the dragons. basically can people afford to head overseas twice. or will this be a detriment to a game they may have watched in the uk.

newcastle/gateshead. why not a cumbrian outfit?

east london would be foolish quins ground is hardly creeking at the seams with the attendences at home games is there really enough potnetial support to justify another team in the captial? instead i'd suggest say birmingham. big city very central not to far south to really affect away travel, good road and rail links etc.

The only scenario I could see a club losing their license would be a club going the same way as Halifax did in 2003.

Oi we'll have none of that , this is a Franchise thread , no sensible posts allowed on either side

Only totally outlandish predictions or doom laden recriminations allowed on here

What by finishing bottom and playing a lot of young local lads? Thought that was to be applauded?

I take your point but with the various franchising criteria the club that gets relegated may not necessarily be the worst performing on the field. That I think is the point of franchising, to assess performance over a number of different criteria not just on field.

They seem to keep forgrtting that one Bill



It's a business after all

That would seem to contradict the whole franchising process. I don't believe he can do that.

If Wakefield don't build a new stadium but achieve 7 or 8 other marks out of the ten available how could they not have their license renewed? It's not a very fair process if Richard Lewis can arbitrarily decide pet criteria that must be achieved, is it?

Forgetting that I am a Trin fan and the fact that I have a large interest in the economy I would be very suprised if the emphasis would be as much on new grounds as it was last time simply due to the fact that it is not realisticaly possible to get the money in place for any new grounds

Of course not. Albert doesn't do sources, beyond his own febrile imagination - unless he's still claiming to sleep with someone from Red Hall who whispers sweet nothings to him post coitus?