not been getting much from brough who has laid on 30 try assists, mainly down the opposite side to cudjoe.

this has turned into a cudjoe v watkins thread!

how about both in the England starting 13 for the world cup... best way to go i think.

Reed is the danger to this, but with cudjoe playing all the autumn internationals and showing up well i feel he should be ahead of reed, how has reed gone down under this year?

Both Cudjoe and Watkins appear to be very talented but as a neutral think they both need to get involved much more from the games I have seen but I think Watkins has more potential to be a game-breaker than Cudjoe and I think he needs a long stretch of games without injury before you see his full potential.

Both probably deserving of an England spot ATM but good to have competition. As for Reed, he's decent (and not half as bad as some have said) but he is hardly going to have any Aussies/Kiwis quaking in their boots and lining up against him. He's pretty solid all round though.

as an opposition fan, i'm scared when we're lining up against watkins, as he's dangerous and cause us problems.

Cudjoe, i'm not, he's not a strike player at all imo, fulfills a role,very well, but he's not someone you're going to double up on, or use as a spot player in attack.

Also in regards Watkins v Cudjoe stats... This season Codjoe has been playing in a team going all out to win every game.... Whereas Watkins has been playing in a side sauntering through their league games.

Be interesting to see how both fair in the playoffs.

A fair comment.Both have a big few months ahead with play offs then the WC.i guess we will learn lots about both players heights of ability soon enough.

The common opinion of Atkins seems to be that he isnt 'brilliant'.... he has spent alot of this season injured. But if we compare his stats lasts season to Cudjoes this season the contrast is a stark one.



I would also swap Atkins for Watkins.... i wouldn't swap him for Cudjoe though. Not a chance.

warrington were going all out to win every game that season though huddersfield were not

you're thinking of 2011



also, those are cudjoes stats from THIS season.

Yeah, Huddersfield have been sauntering through the season all year



FWIW I wouldn't swap Atkins for Cudjoe either



Basically Watkins looks flash but his all round game lets him down, especially defence, but he is still at the Leeds favoured attacking side

Atkins benefited from a team in great form all season whose preference was to attack down his side

Cudjoe doesn't catch the eye so much (I guess his MoM performance v Leeds in the cup doesn't count) - probably due to him being on the opposite side to Broughs attack but despite this his stats stack up pretty well

Watkins is a far better player than you describe.

These stats are ridiculous. Have you not read that Watkins is criminally under used by a poor Leeds coach. By contrast Cudjoe is the main strike weapon in a good Huddersfield team.

Personally I think Cudjoe is brilliant by the way, just those stats are completely irrelevant.

Giants use cudjoe as a main strike weapon?!



obviously not seen much of huddersfield and the attack this season then

infact i doubt many on here have seen much of cudjoe at all apart from the odd game on sky and england games...doesnt get the same exposure as watkins at leeds who are on more often and sky drool over them.

Both Cudjoe and Watkins are big, athletic, powerful players and I hope they terrorise the Aussies in November.

It will be interesting to see how Inglis and Morris/Jennings handle the British centres.

Cudjoe 190cm 102Kg
Watkins 185cm 90Kg

Morris 182cm 86Kg
Jennings 180cm 94Kg
Inglis 195cm 106Kg

That's quite interesting...

Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener

how good was cudjoe lastnight!

Quote ="Code13"That's quite interesting... Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener'" It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.

Quote ="Code13"That's quite interesting... Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener'" It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.

Quote ="Buggo"It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.'" He's a good player, but one of the tackles in that video is a massive forearm to the head and another has the ref blowing for a penalty in the background. The repeated shot of the guy flying through the air is him handing off a small scrum half. Not disputing that he's class, or that he might be too much for our centres, but that video looks like an agent's showreel

Quote ="Buggo"It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.'" He's a good player, but one of the tackles in that video is a massive forearm to the head and another has the ref blowing for a penalty in the background. The repeated shot of the guy flying through the air is him handing off a small scrum half. Not disputing that he's class, or that he might be too much for our centres, but that video looks like an agent's showreel

It is a fan highlight reel from youtube, that is obvious. It is from a series of "Hardest Hitters"
That is correct but several of the players he smashes backwards in tackles are Forwards.
He is one of the biggest players on the field and although he may have slowed slightly at 26 he is still one of the best Athletes in the game.
He will not be "frightened or fear" Watkins, Cudjoe or Sam Burgess.
Its not in Australian players makeup to worry or "fear" other opposing players, its a challenge to come out on top.
No Aussies feared Sam Tomkins in the last Test series, they set a game plan to deal with him and in the main it nullified him to the point he was looking to pass the ball from the deep.

No one said he'd fear them but that they might be a match for him

Yeah he is a massive player, but he isn't that much bigger of heavier than Cudjoe apparently and in case you missed Sundays game Cudjoe was swatting players off all over too

he was up against frankie mariano

Quote ="Buggo"It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.'" thought the shoulder charge was banned now!

Quote ="Buggo"It will be a classic confrontation. youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.'" thought the shoulder charge was banned now!

Cudjoe was class yesterday, but he is most weeks. Maybe because he isn't one of the 'flair' players who gets lots of media coverage he gets overlooked by people at times. Him and Watkins, in my opinion, are the best 2 and both will only get better in time too.

Your opinions do not seem to be backed up by the evidence. Cudjoe has really developed that side of his game. As seen in yesterdays game where he consistently held up the centre and drew in the winger ( who was chosen for England this season!) before releasing his winger with one handed flick passes.

Those who have watched the Giants this season have seen Cudjoe regularly getting his winger space.

Will start by saying this isn't a dig or cheap shot, as I like Cudjoe. Good player who I rate and would like to see playing in the World Cup.

But, does he ever pass the ball properly (by that I mean two handed)? Every time I see him pass he does that one hand flick thing.
Seems to work for the kid so it's not a bad thing, I'm just wondering.