It does need to be grounded. A very poor decision. As mentioned on Sky, had that been an attempt to score a try it would not have been given.

I cant stand giving points to losing sides. Its an utterly stupid thing. Union do well by giving their teams points for scoring X tries in a game. That cant happen in RL because its surpassed usually in the first half. Its a half decent idea, but if you lose then sorry you deserve 0 points.

As for same old, i expected (and tweeted) a relatively easy win for Wigan but id not have put Leeds by 30 and Huddersfield by 30+.

Maybe he DID see it.

Same old whingeing from RL fans. STFU.

Some perplexing decisions from the ref tonight, almost as perplexing as our performance



This thread kind of redundant now?!

No, you have to give today's losers a chance to moan. Then we can shut the thread and get on with our lives.

Sweet.

The ball clearly bounced off George's foot and I'm surprised that wasn't spotted

Mind you the officials missed all the niggling from Saints all game (especially Wilkin) and what's worse singled out Luke O'Donnel to warn him for running in when LoD was absolutely no where near. Typical refs working on reputation and not events

I did laugh at that.

There were some odd refereeing decisions BUT they went both ways so i accept that as part of the game.

What i cannot understand is the PTB rule. We got pinged quite rightly and in the pre season friendlies were hammered for it Yet it now seems to have dissappeared until next week when some team will be hammered for it all game.

Rather than looking at how 'poor' Saints were, Hudds look a very good unit and will do this to a few teams in 2013. I expected the Leeds result, but was impressed that Hull kept it close for a long time.

I think a draft is too artificial for British tastes. I also don't like letting the smaller clubs off the hook when it comes to improvement. There's got to be some incentive for bigger gates, better youth systems, etc. Its probably not an issue for the NFL, with a relatively small number of franchises for a massive supporting population - they can get sellout crowds regardless, so a draft is OK there.

I've always said that the problem we tried to fix ( i.e. Wigan winning everything) was slightly misdiagnosed. It wasn't that they had the best 13, it was that they had the best 26, thus keeping talent away from their rivals, and therefore shortchanging fans across the sport who missed out on watching great players who were sat keeping a bench warm.

I personally believe that the cap should be structured with only one motivation - preventing financial idiocy. If you've found the money, well done for bringing it in to our sport, go spend it on superstars if you like. But...we should still have a mechanism to stop total dominance - I think very tough squad limits do this - for example you can only have 13 on superstar wages. With injuries, etc, even signing some of the world's best in that 13 doesn't guarantee season-long dominance.

I think a draft is too artificial for British tastes. I also don't like letting the smaller clubs off the hook when it comes to improvement. There's got to be some incentive for bigger gates, better youth systems, etc. Its probably not an issue for the NFL, with a relatively small number of franchises for a massive supporting population - they can get sellout crowds regardless, so a draft is OK there.

I've always said that the problem we tried to fix ( i.e. Wigan winning everything) was slightly misdiagnosed. It wasn't that they had the best 13, it was that they had the best 26, thus keeping talent away from their rivals, and therefore shortchanging fans across the sport who missed out on watching great players who were sat keeping a bench warm.

I personally believe that the cap should be structured with only one motivation - preventing financial idiocy. If you've found the money, well done for bringing it in to our sport, go spend it on superstars if you like. But...we should still have a mechanism to stop total dominance - I think very tough squad limits do this - for example you can only have 13 on superstar wages. With injuries, etc, even signing some of the world's best in that 13 doesn't guarantee season-long dominance.

Wow two questions marks? You really have shown him your rapier like wit.

Please can someone just tell me what's going to happen in today's games, it's cold out isn't it so this could save people some hassle.

A draft isnt too artificial for the British. I dont think most would really have an opinion on it at all.

It would mean a complete restructure of the game, and clubs working together for the good of the game.

It would be fairly simple to implement. The two difficulties would be getting the clubs trusting each other and working together, and selling it to the clubs who, through their own hard work, endeavour and investment, have gained a market advantage and getting them to give that up.

Anybody seen or heard from Saddened and Rommel?

Average winning margin in Round 1 of Super League in 2013 = 25.71

Marvellous stuff.

You might aswel take the Salford scores out of this as probably every team in SL will stuff us at the min.

That is just the nature of the game...

You clearly don't enjoy following RL, why not give it up?

He's a professional wind-up merchant.

These crazy huge winning margins really show what a massive gulf there is between the top teams and the bottom though, don't they? ANd how predictable its all become.

Take Hudds yesterday,obviously. And Bulls today...

He's a complete bore.

He can't differentiate with people having debate/concerns about the game and someone having nothing at all good to say. Some points are valid though are met with apathy because, as you say, he becomes a bore.

It's amazing how he has been able to carry off this shtick for two decades or more and yet still people queue up to take the bait. It's almost entertaining.

going back to the origanal post title

yes, same old, same old, fc never peform at headingley so no big suprises for me, total over-reaction from some of our fans though! leeds were faultless nearly after the opening twenty!