ill wait to see if this logic applies to chelsea, nal, man utd, newcastle, etc etc etc

That's the Newcastle United that are currently playing in the second flight, is it?

I take it that you have not heard of Leeds United.

edit: and while we're on the subject Manchester United make vast profits and everybody knows that Arsenal stick to their budgets.

they are about to get promoted again.

crowds of 30,000. not bad for a 3rd division soccer side.

Dally you really have no idea about British sport. Chelsea are regularly mocked for their reliance on Abramovich for instance. Nobody thinks that they could be described as "sustainable, healthy".

mocked huh?




so SL clubs shouldnt have rich sugar daddies in case theyll be mocked then.

It's poor considering they were made it to the semi-finals of the Champions League a few years back. Championship football? Hold me back before I get too excited.

Leeds blew all their money chasing an unrealistic dream and at the same time left their stadium to rot away. Elland Road used to be a venue for semi-finals of major competitions as it was one of the top grounds in the North. Even if games were still held at neutral venues, nobody in their right mind would consider Elland Road to suitable.

edit: sweary filter changed my original word to "mickey".

They certainly shouldn't be losing 3 million a year and calling it "success".

typical internet nonsense.

which SL clubs are losing 3 million pounds a year?

if you mean hull kr - thats their accumlated debts over time.

You do realise that Man Utd may potentially have to sell their training ground, if not Old Trafford itself, to meet their current debt obligations, don't you? And Newcastle are hardly a beacon of financial responsibility. You really haven't got a clue about sport in your motherland, have you?

Chelsea are fine until Abramovic decides he's had enough. Man Utd are desperately struggling for money, if they hadn't sold Ronaldo they'd have made a huge loss and are considering selling Rooney. Newcastle and Leeds have both found out the problems of spending money they don't have. They're both lucky theyve got large crowds to fall back on, even then it nearly finished off Leeds United.
Arsenal, I dont believe are spending money they don't have, they're signing players at very young ages for little money and using their academy and youth coaches to develop them.

Leeds and Saints have shown the way to go in RL, it's not in flashing your cash around (both Leeds and Wigan suffered from that approach) its in developing your youth systems. London Broncos/Harlequins suffered from trying to buy their team and only recently have changed their policy and is already starting to pay off.

The problem is that to develop players requires money to be spent itself, both in decent training facilities and good youth coaches and scouting. The "poorer" clubs are presumably reluctant to spend that money since it's not guaranteed to work quickly and there are plenty of decent Aussies available. The teams that get low crowds probably cant afford a decent academy set up without compromising the quality on the field for a few years.
It helps in SL now with no relegation but I can see why it is a problem for Championship teams.
So we need to grow the sport to increase participation at all levels, eventually get a succesful national team/competition and then hopefully increase crowds at all levels. But that can't be done without some short-term pain at some level, ie expansion.

what motherland. my parents aint from there. i just took an interest in the place solely because of RL.

failing that why would i bother.

australia is more like america these days anyway. once you lost your empire everyone just followed who was the new number 1.

Do you happen to have a copy of their books?

Indeed. And had Ambramovich not taken an interest then they'd have gone down the Leeds United route. They had been chasing the dream under Bates and it looked like he'd had enough and was about to bail.



In their case, they were doing fine until the Yank took them over. As I'm sure you'll agree Manchester United's success came from Fergie picking up bargains early on, then from their academy system and only later through flashing the wallet on selected occasions.

so you think Hull KR are losing 3 million pounds a season huh?

No. I didn't mention Hull KR, you did.

It means a lot actually.

All of these clubs that are racking up debts will eventually reach a point where their liabilities exceed their assets. That, under UK law, means that they will be trading while insolvent which under some circumstances can be a very serious offence.

At the moment a lot of them are only going concerns due to personal guarantees from directors/owners. If those guarantees are withdrawn then the company may find itself trading illegally and be forced to cease trading. It's an extremely risky policy, and one which has seemingly been encouraged by the failed tennis coach and the fat controller.

Not that I expect you to understand any of that.

That's basically what i've said bird brain. But what i DIDN'T do was blame anyone else but Halifax. Are you thick?

Catalans is heartlands. As has been pointed out to you thousands of times before.

Celtic was expansion.

You're just not getting it are you?

Another thread derailed by dally posting about things he has no idea about and then trying to wind people up.

This is why I barely post on here anymore. There isn't actually any discussion on this forum anymore. It's all just a bunch of posts trying to tell some thick Aussies that white isn't black.

I and others are to blame too. It's difficult not to post - otherwise he just gets the run of the place - posting garbage like Glorious Leagufreak and Barry MacKenzie. What can you do?

Where are freaky and barry these days?

They eloped to the island of Lesbos.

Is that the name of a foetid little ghost-town of a forum that I've heard he runs on some website?

I reckon your wrong,

Which is a shame, as you're certainly up in the bracket of "constructive and considered posters" IMO.