He certainly tries but he’s just not good enough. His choice of pass is really bizarre, constantly sending players down blind alleys on the last. He’s very rarely impressed in an England shirt and only plays because he’s an NRL player.

Think I recall 3 attempts and two of those where when the game had long gone.

The score line does not lie. That is too many points to lose by and make excuses.

Middles and halves were really poor today. He should have played Connor in the halves rather than myler

it's hard to remember every kick but I thought Williams in the first half put a few decent ones in but don't get me wrong as I said earlier, the kicking game from England as a whole was poor especially compared to what Johnson was providing for NZ. Constantly trapping us in our own 10 kicking from deep and made that try from a quality kick and was just constantly putting the ball in the right places.

INOUTWho cares what the scoreline was? Who lifted the the silverware at the end? We don't need excuses for winning.

We’d have won with johnstone in the team!

Makinson was f’in terrible today

Are you joking? He was that bad he won England’s man of the match.

Williams was England's best player by a distance, I thought.

Poor effort can’t back up his performance from last week. Time to pick players on form like Tom Johnstone

Thought it was a nice gesture that O’Loughlin insisted Graham lift the shield given O’Loughlin’s lack of involvement.

He's definitely trying hard to joke, yes.

One thing I've learnt from this series is to never criticise an English referee again. What they were allowed to get away with at the PTB was criminal.

Some individual poor performances today. Hill, Mcgilvary and Hodgson had shockers. Hodgson just isn't good enough IMO ran down too many blind alleys.

The amount of players we've got out probably told. Lets be honest, Myler won't play for England again unless there's another 5 injuries to our half backs. Overall its been a good series. Shame SL chairman would rather SL start 31st January and play a million dour club games than more internationals.

See what happens when a Leeds player goes anywhere near an England shirt!

I hope the person who had a medical emergency in the Revie North Stand just before kick off is ok. Some people were saying it was a heart attack but I’m not sure if this is correct. If anyone has an update on his condition please post, hopefully he’s ok.

Makinson was absolutely fine and one of England’s best players. If there’s a winger that should be dropped next year, it’s McGillvary. He’s had a very average year and doesn’t really do a lot apart from run it in. I’ve never really understood what’s so good about him. He’s had a poor series as well.

Maybe we would but none of us will ever know



This was an ideal chance to blood a couple of new players and see if they really could make their mark at top International
level but Bennett chose not to go down that route.
Did Myler play today ? he was fecking anonymous and both McGillvery and Makinson were left chasing shadows, especially McGillvery who has been bang average this series.
Mind you, with the pack that we had,, the game was lost before a ball was kicked/passed and our second 40 was as bad as we've put in in a long time.

Very disturbing scenes. Agree though, really hope he's ok.

Whats worrying is that half of this team won't be playing in the 2021 world cup and Bennett has not really brought any young players through. Bennett also talked last week about England having strength in depth but we are nowhere near the quality of Oz and NZ.

that's only because if he had lifted the shield he would of been deemed fit for work

lets hope Myler carries on his good form into next season

As most Wigan fans would agree, George Williams has a very good short kicking game, but a very ordinary long kicking game. So naturally I assumed Myler would be doing most of the kicking. But no! It was mostly left to Williams, And of course, when you're up against one of the best kickers in the game in Shaun Johnson, the comparison is bound to be telling. That said, Williams was otherwise pretty good, and he defended well as he always does, often against Johnson, which is a nightmare for any defender. And good as his g0-forward is, McGillvary really doesn't look like an international class defender. And I don't know what he was doing with that sin-binning; it looked like he wanted the yellow! Talk about giving the ref no choice...

Other than being fairly generous towards NZ for a few high shots, Sutton was generally very good, and got the big decisions right. As he usually does. Much rather him than one of our clowns.

You say nowhere near the quality of Oz and NZ but, we have just BEATEN NZ in a 3 test series or have you already forgotten the first 2 tests



The depth that he spoke about was more like a reference to the players that England were missing.
Widdop and Sam Burgess being significant absentees plus, Gale, Hall etc, etc and we still beat the Kiwis 2 -1