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| Quote ="Call Me God"Can't speak for Toulouse, but without a new owner, London are fine just where they are thanks.
Whatever the level, it should be directly linked to finishing position, number of locals in the side and the state of the stadium (sic) with backdated deductions for every year since the initial lie told to gain a licence.
Opinions are like decent grounds....most people have got one
Nothing. Both will bounce back and both have attendances, incomes and public appeal that other clubs can only dream of.....
I don't wish to eliminate anyone, I believe each club should have individual targets to be set by the SL board and met or receive reduced funding and I certainly do not believe that we ever took 2 coaches anywhere other than St Helens in 20003 and Bradford in 2005, both for the play offs or Wales in 2008 (IIRC) when I organised them......but I like the fan jibe coming from a fan of a club with fewer than London used to be berated for...such Irony from such a small village with a big church
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If we're cherry picking attendances, there were 28,000 at Belle Vue in the 60's, irrelevant, bloody and totally spring to mind.
I do love how you change your own criteria for funding, just to suit your anti Wakefield agenda.
Regarding the many "broken promises" regarding the ground and your wish to penalise Wakefield, suerly, you should give our neighbours and friends at Castleford a mention or, doesn't that fit your agenda and for god's sake dont mention mergers. |
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| Quote ="Vikingsufferer"Maybe relegation will do is good, clear the decks, players and boardroom and start again. If only it was that easy!'"
Yes as a Bradford fan I've spent each year of descent naively hoping for the same thing. I hope it's true for Widnes. |
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
Regarding the many "broken promises" regarding the ground and your wish to penalise Wakefield, suerly, you should give our neighbours and friends at Castleford a mention or, doesn't that fit your agenda and for god's sake dont mention mergers.'"
Groundsharing isn't a merger.......building 2 stadiums that close to each other is insanity and let's face it, at least a groundshare stadium would be full once a fortnight when Castleford were at home  |
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Groundsharing isn't a merger.......building 2 stadiums that close to each other is insanity and let's face it, at least a groundshare stadium would be full once a fortnight when Castleford were at home
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A goundshare would be a decent solution.
However, the deal would have to be "equal" for both clubs and equi-distance (or as near as damn it) between Castleford and Wakefield, if not, one of the two clubs would suffer immeasurably and eventually either have to move out or die.
Ironically, the ground (proposed) at Newmarket is pretty close to all these things and is/was to be a true community stadium but, our local authority have sat back and allowed other developments on adjacent land, directly against the criteria laid out by the Secretary of State at the public enquiry.
Next time you are in England, take a look at the HUGE Newcold warehouse, you can hardly miss it.
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| Quote Quote ="Call Me God"1. Away fans and the amount that a club bring to games is an irrelevance!
You can't beat 'atmosphere/banter' at a game, sadly when certain clubs visit any ground, this will NEVER happen. I'm old school though....though you would have never guessed so.'" '"
Sadly thats all Leigh offer a few vocal fans hence why you keep banging that drum. In most modern sports its a secondary issue. |
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i like it when clubs with no away fans visit our ground because when they score a try, it's total silence.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"A goundshare would be a decent solution.'"
Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet?
In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve |
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Sadly thats all Leigh offer a few vocal fans hence why you keep banging that drum. In most modern sports its a secondary issue.'"
No need for that ! I wasn't haven't a go at any one club. I am saying basically you can't beat 'a bit of atmosphere' at a game, how weird am I ? |
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Quote ="Call Me God"Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet?
In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve'"
You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be d enforcing the agreement .
They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them.
It's been six years since it was passed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9208564
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In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve'"
You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be d enforcing the agreement .
They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them.
It's been six years since it was passed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9208564
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Back on topic.
My preferred outcome at the end of the Middle 8s would be:
1. Leeds
2. Hull KR
3. Toronto
4. Toulouse
5. London
6. Salford
7. Widnes
8. Halifax
But unfortunately that result will not happen because Salford have signed Jackson Hastings, who has turned their performances around the same way that Catalans signing Joshua Drinkwater turned Catalans performances around.
I now think that the final ladder will probably be:
1. Salford
2. Hull KR
3. Leeds
4. Toronto
5. Toulouse or London
6. Toulouse or London
7. Widnes
8. Halifax
Who would win the MPG if it was between
1. Toronto and Toulouse?
2. Toronto and London?
3. Toulouse and London?
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Who would win the MPG if it was between
1. Toronto and Toulouse?
2. Toronto and London?
3. Toulouse and London?'"
Toronto, Toronto and I reckon London would deal with the pressure better regardless, but if it is in Toulouse it would be a closer game than if it were in London.
The winner of this weeks game in London will be the away team in the MPG unless something goes horribly wrong with the form book....if Fax, Widnes and Toulouse lose this weekend, then they will in all probability make up the bottom 3...the following week will determine if Widnes of Fax will finish bottom, Toulouse 6th, London 5th and it's a toss up at the moment between Leeds and Toronto who will finish 4th/5th........the MPG at Leeds will be twitchy bum time for the SL chairmen and the RFL......  |
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If Toronto can get a win at Salford this week, I think they will finish in the top 3. But that’s a very tough ask against a form team.
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Not Toronto.
Hopefully this season will stand them in good stead and they'll be contenders for promotion in 2019.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Back on topic.
My preferred outcome at the end of the Middle 8s would be:
1. Leeds
2. Hull KR
3. Toronto
4. Toulouse
5. London
6. Salford
7. Widnes
8. Halifax
But unfortunately that result will not happen because Salford have signed Jackson Hastings, who has turned their performances around the same way that Catalans signing Joshua Drinkwater turned Catalans performances around.
Hastings wont be playing for next 2 maybe 3 weeks. Bad one that, malicious.
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Toronto player sin binned for dangerous tackle.
Salford player sent off for a high shot.
Where's the consistency.
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Hicks was correct with all three cards.
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There were four cards.
Tasi was sin binned for a high shot, I thought that was just a penalty
Burgess was sent off for a high shot, I thought that was just a Sin Bin
Stanley was sin binned for a dangerous lift, I thought that was just a penalty
Hastings was sent off for a head shot, correct decision should be a few games’ ban for him
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"There were four cards.
Tasi was sin binned for a high shot, I thought that was just a penalty
Burgess was sent off for a high shot, I thought that was just a Sin Bin
Stanley was sin binned for a dangerous lift, I thought that was just a penalty
Hastings was sent off for a head shot, correct decision should be a few games’ ban for him'"
Tasi might have stayed on the pitch if Obrien had the ball. The fact he got him high and off the ball was probably worth the yellow.
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I thought Salford were better in every position. Sidlow had a good few runs off the bench but other than that Toronto looked like a Championship outfit in tactics, personnel and execution. Salford had XIII men for about 38 minutes of that game and Toronto did next to nothing, they had about four good sets early in the second half and that was it for 80minutes.
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Well, from one Leigh fan who is truly opposed to North American teams in our league, my take is that, if Toronto finish in one of those top four spots, (and win the £1 m game) then they have to be promoted.
They were set the task of progressing through the Championship leagues and they have done/are doing that. It would be the ultimate act of hypocrisy, on the part of the RFL and/or clubs, to deny them their rightful place in the 'promised land'.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Toronto have shown they are not SL quality'"
neither were salford until marwan paid hastings to play for them, now it looks like he could miss the next few matches (deservedly)
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| Quote ="Hasbag" I agree about the Stanley yellow. His legs were lifted but I still didn't think there was that much in it. Suppose if those have been carded in the past though they need to stay consistent.'"
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