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| Quote ="Lebron James"Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it
Regards
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Finished 5th a few years ago, having beaten Hull in the play-offs.
Cheated by Ashley Klown at Wigan the following game.
So twice in 49 years ya tool!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts
=6th of the Hull forwards in metres made
4th of the forwards in av.metres/carry
8th of the forwards in Try assists
10th in tackles made
=4th worst in tackles missed (as a %)
2nd in errors (his best stat by a mile)
Chris Green was his equal in attack/defence, I stand by my statement that Ellis was ineffective in attack last 2 years.'"
Chris Green as good as Gareth Ellis? Interesting.
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| Quote ="dboy"Finished 5th a few years ago, having beaten Hull in the play-offs.
Cheated by Ashley Klown at Wigan the following game.
So twice in 49 years ya tool!'"
Not that he'd know, he's an amateur WUM. We've finished 5th in 2009 and don't forget 6th in 2004
What makes his post even funnier his Uncle Rico was replying to a Salford fan.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it
Regards
King James'"
1971 - 5th Place
1972 - 5th Place
1981 - 4th Place
1992 - 6th Place
2004 - 6th Place
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Grix
Caton-Brown/Johnstone
Lyne
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Jones-Bishop
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Finn
England
Randell
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Arona
Wood
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Sorry but Johnstone battling it out with MCB seriously.
The battle is between BJB and MCB end of
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts
=6th of the Hull forwards in metres made
4th of the forwards in av.metres/carry
8th of the forwards in Try assists
10th in tackles made
=4th worst in tackles missed (as a %)
2nd in errors (his best stat by a mile)
Chris Green was his equal in attack/defence, I stand by my statement that Ellis was ineffective in attack last 2 years.'"
Just tells me you don't watch the game, just look at the stats.
Ellis was in the top 10 for MOS nominations again this year (Top 3 the year before), despite missing a fair few games.
But what do the players and coaches know?
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| whichever team has the least injuries will win the LLS.
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| Quote ="brearley84"whichever team has the least injuries will win the LLS.'"
Rubbish, injures are part of it, but I’d say there are 5 clubs in with a chance of lifting the trophy.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Rubbish, injures are part of it, but I’d say there are 5 clubs in with a chance of lifting the trophy.'"
if a team gets 9, 10 players out for a period of time ... which happens, they wont win the league
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"To be fair if a new coach "making the right noises" meant anything then just about every new coach would succeed at their new club.'"
and without wishing to derail the thread further, for clarity I didn't say our new coach would succeed because he's "making the right noises" all I asked was on what basis the poster thought that he wouldn't see the season out?
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| Quote ="brearley84"if a team gets 9, 10 players out for a period of time ... which happens, they wont win the league'"
That’s true, but it’s not the same as the team with the least number winning.
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| Bradford won super league years ago on the back of probably the worst injury list ever seen
Regards
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry but Johnstone battling it out with MCB seriously.
The battle is between BJB and MCB end of
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Yes seriously' take a look at their respective strike rates and given that he’s the incumbent and will be a team the start of the new season the shirt is MCBs to lose, as it should be.
That’s how I see it
MCB is a left wing not right.
In your spirit of being critical of others, do you seriously think Jowitt will replace Grix?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Yes seriously' take a look at their respective strike rates and given that he’s the incumbent and will be a team the start of the new season the shirt is MCBs to lose, as it should be.
That’s how I see it
MCB is a left wing not right.
In your spirit of being critical of others, do you seriously think Jowitt will replace Grix?'"
I think TJ will be the first name on the team sheet myself.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Yes seriously' take a look at their respective strike rates and given that he’s the incumbent and will be a team the start of the new season the shirt is MCBs to lose, as it should be.
That’s how I see it
MCB is a left wing not right.
In your spirit of being critical of others, do you seriously think Jowitt will replace Grix?'"
Don't they have humour in your world?
Thats what the smiley at the end was for.
Yo're still talking rubbish though - no sane person would leave TJ out - he's better than BJB and way better than MCB who was dropped in favour of Tupou for a while after the Hudds showing.
Seriously though if I were coach TJ would be the first player on the team sheet let alone winger - he's a pure winner and entertainer.
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| Quote ="vastman"Don't they have humour in your world?
Thats what the smiley at the end was for.
Yo're still talking rubbish though - no sane person would leave TJ out - he's better than BJB and way better than MCB who was dropped in favour of Tupou for a while after the Hudds showing.
Seriously though if I were coach TJ would be the first player on the team sheet let alone winger - he's a pure winner and entertainer.'"
I agree with you about TJ being a winner and entertainer but he’s also been out for months with a serious injury, during that time MCB has been outstanding bar maybe one game.
If Johnstone had score s some of those long range acrobatic try’s that MCB scored we’d be raving about them.
It’s MCBs shirt to lose IMO and Johnstone Willie have to bide his time till his opportunity arises as MCB did last year. It will no doubt happen and Tom will take his opportunity I’m sure of it.
Jowitt for Grix?
In all honesty, Hooly is likely to get the gig before Max, he’s a better player.
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If Johnstone had score s some of those long range acrobatic try’s that MCB scored we’d be raving about them.
It’s MCBs shirt to lose IMO and Johnstone Willie have to bide his time till his opportunity arises as MCB did last year. It will no doubt happen and Tom will take his opportunity I’m sure of it.
Jowitt for Grix?
In all honesty, Hooly is likely to get the gig before Max, he’s a better player.'"
You may be right about hooley however I think Max deserves another chance certainly at the start of the season if he does OK in the friendlies - he's no TJ though I realise that.
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He's spot on about strength in depth - there are maybe two or three players in that squad who are not really ready for SL but even those are quality youngsters. We have at least 25 players who could command first team a number of whom are genuine quality players which ain't half bad on our budget.
It will be fun seeing if it works or not. I can see Wakefield at the GF or the CCup this year but unfortunately I can also still see us slugging it out in the million pound game. Still that applies to a number of clubs so at least it's nice to no longer be the total no hopers.
Cue Lebron
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It will be fun seeing if it works or not. I can see Wakefield at the GF or the CCup this year but unfortunately I can also still see us slugging it out in the million pound game. Still that applies to a number of clubs so at least it's nice to no longer be the total no hopers.
Cue Lebron
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Tom Johnstone
Bill Tupou
Reece Lyne
Ben Jones-Bishop
Jacob Miller
Liam Finn
Anthony England
Tyler Randell
David Fifita
Matty Ashurst
Justin Horo
Tinirau Arona
Kyle Wood
Pauli Pauli
Craig Huby
James Batchelor
With cover from:
Max Jowitt - 2016 Young player of the year
Mason Caton-Brown
Joe Arundel
Keegan Hirst
Danny Kirmond
Chris Annakin
Jordan Crowther
Jordan Baldwinson
And then youngsters:
Luke Hooley
Christian Ackroyd
Lewis Wray
Lee Kershaw
I'm quite happy with that - we have enough established players to cover positions in case of injury and some quality youngsters waiting in the wings.
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| Quote ="vastman"He's spot on about strength in depth - there are maybe two or three players in that squad who are not really ready for SL but even those are quality youngsters. We have at least 25 players who could command first team a number of whom are genuine quality players which ain't half bad on our budget.
It will be fun seeing if it works or not. I can see Wakefield at the GF or the CCup this year but unfortunately I can also still see us slugging it out in the million pound game. Still that applies to a number of clubs so at least it's nice to no longer be the total no hopers.
Cue Lebron
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carefull now, Wakey always over achieve, better tio be no hopers and finish 5 than predict 5-6 and finish bottom.
wakefy really should have finished 3-4th last year, but blew it/unlucky. it will be harder this year to get to the same spot. Leeds Cas wakey Hull wigan saints catalan warrinington will all be in the mix for the top 4 spots.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just tells me you don't watch the game, just look at the stats.
Ellis was in the top 10 for MOS nominations again this year (Top 3 the year before), despite missing a fair few games.
But what do the players and coaches know?'"
That Ellis was top 10 MOS is meaningless, it's a bit like SPOTY, in 2016 he was voted ahead of Westerman in the dream team which was a joke.
IMHO in attack he's not been all that for a long time and nowhere near his NRL form, the last two seasons have been pretty average to say the least. His leadership however is second to none as I said, his tackling is far in advance of his attacking prowess.
Your statement tells me that you don't read too well and can't see past the fact it's Ellis and that he has been average in attack (well behind the likes of Watts, Bowden, Minichello and Taylor with Green being just as effective) which is the only negative point I made. His endeavour is not being called into question, nor his leadership but that he/we as a club decided to call time was the correct one as we have better to replace him in from an attack POV.
That we did not fall off a cliff when he wasn't playing despite other injuries as mentioned elsewhere on this thread shows your blinkers and inability to be objective.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Scott Grix
Tom Johnstone
Bill Tupou
Reece Lyne
Ben Jones-Bishop
Jacob Miller
Liam Finn
Anthony England
Tyler Randell
David Fifita
Matty Ashurst
Justin Horo
Tinirau Arona
Kyle Wood
Pauli Pauli
Craig Huby
James Batchelor
With cover from:
Max Jowitt - 2016 Young player of the year
Mason Caton-Brown
Joe Arundel
Keegan Hirst
Danny Kirmond
Chris Annakin
Jordan Crowther
Jordan Baldwinson
And then youngsters:
Luke Hooley
Christian Ackroyd
Lewis Wray
Lee Kershaw
I'm quite happy with that - we have enough established players to cover positions in case of injury and some quality youngsters waiting in the wings.'"
Looks a really decent squad with plenty of good quality cover except in the halves
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| If wakefield make the top 8 I will leave rlfans forever. That squad is shocking
Regards
King James
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| Quote ="Lebron James"[u=#FF0000If wakefield make the top 8 I will leave rlfans forever.[/u That squad is shocking
Regards
King James'"
That's great news, I would say it's odds on that we'll never hear from you again.
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