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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"There are teams below Leigh that have managed implement academy systems. How much time does the Leigh club need before it establishes one and starts making a contribution to the talent pool?
This thread, and the other one on a similar subject, as simply seen people explain why they would prefer Catalans to win on Saturday. You've spat your dummy out because you don't like the answer to the questions asked and dismissed perfectly fair reasoning from myself and others as "fans just looking for a jolly". It's the sort of petulance you expect from a child.
And there is nothing snobbish about wanting to see the sport I love grow and be as good as it possibly can be.'"
Hi Bramley.
Leigh are all set to go now regards Academy status, just 1 season after entry to SL & without any guarantees of future membership of SL, I don't feel that's too bad is it ?
2 'Big' Clubs F.C & K.R 'Share' an Academy having previously ran their own.
There is much that goes for having a Catalans or Toulouse (preferably both) & a Toronto & London, if it were me then I would put all 3 on notice to prepare for direct entry in 2019.
Let's return to Leigh's 2nd season v Catalans decade in SL.
Firstly it must be so much easier to prepare & set up for Academy status & also for recruitment on a general level when as a club you are gifted direct entry & guaranteed membership for 6, yes six years !
Should Leigh have had an Academy before entry to SL ? Well yes, if a) they could afford it & b) we had anyone to play with that Academy.
In terms of talent pool, is it not our amateur Clubs that are providing that talent to our professional clubs for them to polish ? In which case the town of Leigh provides plenty.
What is certain in this Leigh v Catalans debate is that 'directly' via the turnstiles Leigh are of greater benefit to 'every' SL Club, what is indeterminable is what Catalans presence in SL brings financially to the SL table & how much of that the RFL pass on.
I assume that those who favour a return to 'Franchising' are also in favour of the criteria for modern SL standard stadia, as was forced by threat of expulsion on Salford ? Maybe this time that criteria could be enforced to the letter.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"there's some tetchy leythers on here, wonder whether it's the prospect of having 2 seasons in the same decade in Super League that's scaring them???'"
There is more to RUGBY LEAGUE life, than 'Sooper Dooper' League pal, but it's that pathetic line typed by other numpty's that is annoying. "What do Leigh BRING to Sooper League" Like the one's who have typed that, give a to55 what their club do or don't BRING to the game. It's just a 'wind up' comment by expansion lovers, or folk who don't like our owner/club.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"would be nice if some supposedly well supported Clubs could bring a strong away following too *Wigan*.'"
As a London RL fan I can appreciate the irony of discussing "attendances' but the reality is that Leigh have a potential to get to maybe a 7k average at best......and that's it. Nothing wrong with that....Leeds united get twice the crowds of the Rhinos and Leeds Rhinos are arguably the biggest club we have. Catalans have the potential to get 20k if not more...so for the good of the games growth, the French to stay please.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Average gates between 7-8k supporters.
An extended reach of the league.
A European television contract.
Additional TV coverage in the UK that didn't exist before their TV contract.
A portfolio of sponsors that, over their life, has included Nike and subsidaries of Renault and Air France-KLM.
A significantly redeveloped stadium.
A highly rated academy.
An extension of the European talent pool.
And yeah, and I'll say it, a nice jolly.
What more would you like them to bring other than.....drumroll..... "away fans"?
How many other clubs contribute even close to that?'"
Wouldn't disagree with much of that ( apart from a sneaking feeling their attendances are ' doctored ' after my visit this summer ) so they should have achieved a lot more on the pitch than they have , my feelings are that basically the French are useless , far too much politics within the sport for them ever to grow
So yes they bring more to SL than possibly anybody else , but unfortunately they are not very good on the pitch , so , if they lose on Sat , they go down , simple as , it's called ' Sport '
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| Quote ="Call Me God"icon_lol.gif
As a London RL fan I can appreciate the irony of discussing "attendances' but the reality is that Leigh have a potential to get to maybe a [i7k average at best[/i......and that's it. Nothing wrong with that....Leeds united get twice the crowds of the Rhinos and Leeds Rhinos are arguably the biggest club we have. Catalans have the potential to get [i20k if not more[/i...so for the good of the games growth, the French to stay please.'"
Do you do 'Stand Up' ? Because you should !
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"Why didn't you have an academy for this season? Genuine question'"
A few years back we did have one , but we were refused entry to the SL comp , we ended up with games constantly being called off because our ' opposition ' couldn't raise a team , so we dumped it
Also realistically as a Championship club surrounded by 3 of the biggest clubs do you think we could have developed SL quality players ?
So now we are putting in place the necessary structures , will having 20 odd 16/17 yr olds taken out of their community clubs after they have been passed over by Wigan,Saints and Wire produce SL quality players ?
I think we will have our work cut out , don't you ?
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| Many thanks to my fellow Leythers for clearing this up with the barrage of nincompoops challenging the developments of our club.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Do you do 'Stand Up' ? Because you should !'"
I remember all to well watching London Broncos lose to Leigh in that disheveled hole of a ground (Gansons Birthday) and thinking to myself, why would our game dare call itself the Greatest Game when one of the top 14 teams in the UK and 30 globally played out of a stadium where you could take a pi55 and still watch the game over the lavy wall?
Leigh are a great and traditional club.....just not the future of our game!
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| Quote ="Call Me God"I remember all to well watching London Broncos lose to Leigh in that disheveled hole of a ground (Gansons Birthday) and thinking to myself, why would our game dare call itself the Greatest Game when one of the top 14 teams in the UK and 30 globally played out of a stadium where you could take a pi55 and still watch the game over the lavy wall?
Leigh are a great and traditional club.....just not the future of our game!'"
Isn't it great to see a ground ' stadium ' very similar to that disheveled hole the home of the team that has just made this years GF , haven't we moved on ?
Quite possible that our ' Champions ' will be playing out of a stadium ' very loose term ' that didn't pass the criteria for SL entry back in the year 2000
SL just keeps getting better and better
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"A few years back we did have one , but we were refused entry to the SL comp , we ended up with games constantly being called off because our ' opposition ' couldn't raise a team , so we dumped it
Also realistically as a Championship club surrounded by 3 of the biggest clubs do you think we could have developed SL quality players ?
So now we are putting in place the necessary structures , will having 20 odd 16/17 yr olds taken out of their community clubs after they have been passed over by Wigan,Saints and Wire produce SL quality players ?
I think we will have our work cut out , don't you ?'"
Thanks for that. Very informative.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Isn't it great to see a ground ' stadium ' very similar to that disheveled hole the home of the team that has just made this years GF , haven't we moved on ?
Quite possible that our ' Champions ' will be playing out of a stadium ' very loose term ' that didn't pass the criteria for SL entry back in the year 2000
SL just keeps getting better and better'"
The Jungle is streets ahead of where Leigh used to play home games......and as I said, Leigh is a great club as are Castleford......just not the future of our game if we want to be taken seriously as a Pro sport. And Castleford own the "mend a hose' don't they?
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As a London RL fan I can appreciate the irony of discussing "attendances' but the reality is that Leigh have a potential to get to maybe a 7k average at best......and that's it. Nothing wrong with that....Leeds united get twice the crowds of the Rhinos and Leeds Rhinos are arguably the biggest club we have. Catalans have the potential to get =#40BF0020k if not more...so for the good of the games growth, the French to stay please.'"
Possibly Catalans v Toulouse. But you don't need to be SL to see that fixture,do you! SL has done its job,its time for others to leave their mothers apron strings. We need to start to get our own home game in order from now on.
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| Quote ="atomic",its time for others to leave their mothers apron strings.'"
Puzzled. Is this a reference to oft cited but never proven "extra funds' we used to get down south?
I'd love RL to be a self sufficient sport but like so many others.......no Murdoch = no professionalism.....and if you want relevance, you need a team in London.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"The Jungle is streets ahead of where Leigh used to play home games......and as I said, Leigh is a great club as are Castleford......just not the future of our game if we want to be taken seriously as a Pro sport. =#40BF00And Castleford own the "mend a hose' don't they?'"
Will it meet the criteria of licensing?.. Hilton Park did,the Willows didn't.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"The Jungle is streets ahead of where Leigh used to play home games......and as I said, Leigh is a great club as are Castleford......just not the future of our game if we want to be taken seriously as a Pro sport. And Castleford own the "mend a hose' don't they?'"
So sorry I didn't realise we were on a history lesson , Leigh play at the LSV stadium , have done for 10 seasons now
As for the jungle , don't talk complete nonsense it's a dump
But I don't actually care , because as you say it's sport , it's what happens ON the pitch that goes into the history books
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Puzzled. Is this a reference to oft cited but never proven "extra funds' we used to get down south?
I'd love RL to be a self sufficient sport but like so many others.......no Murdoch = no professionalism.....and if you want relevance, you need a team in London.'"
Before we need a team in London , London needs a stadium
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Before we need a team in London , London needs a stadium'"
Wrong......happy to pay rent, just need a team (back office) to fill the thing.....London should command a 10k average 7 days a week....but the current owner doesn't see it that way so he's flushed 20 million...that's TWENTY MILLION doing it his way on a rush to the floor.....
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Puzzled. Is this a reference to oft cited but never proven "extra funds' we used to get down south?
I'd love RL to be a self sufficient sport but like so many others.......no Murdoch = no professionalism.....and if you want relevance, you need a team in London.'"
The first thing is to get away from Murdoch at the earliest opportunity. I'll say it again,they may be the saviour of SL,but they are the demise of the game.
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| Quote ="atomic"The first thing is to get away from Murdoch at the earliest opportunity. I'll say it again,they may be the saviour of SL,but they are the demise of the game.'"
So get away from Murdoch.....
Then what?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Wrong......happy to pay rent, just need a team (back office) to fill the thing.....London should command a 10k average 7 days a week....but the current owner doesn't see it that way so he's flushed 20 million...that's TWENTY MILLION doing it his way on a rush to the floor.....'"
You pay ? , to play there ? , seriously ?
Look Gutters old chap I don't want to fall out with you , but we both know the London boat sailed long ago
All the best
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Puzzled. Is this a reference to oft cited but never proven "extra funds' we used to get down south?
I'd love RL to be a self sufficient sport but like so many others.......no Murdoch = no professionalism.....and if you want relevance, you need a team in London.'"
If London Broncos/Skolars 'ceased to trade' as of tomorrow, it would have 0% impact on the future of RL in this country. Broncos only got a crowd over a 1000 this season, when Hull KR & Leigh played there.
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"So get away from Murdoch.....
Then what?'"
A new broadcaster for starters.There will be plenty queueing up.Including the BBC. More coverage,more schedule normality and better promotion of the game.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"If London Broncos/Skolars 'ceased to trade' as of tomorrow, it would have 0% impact on the future of RL in this country. Broncos only got a crowd over a 1000 this season, when Hull KR & Leigh played there.
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Nice to see you what you think of the kids down south who aspire to play rugby league.
Let's take Mike McMeeken as an example. Without skolars and broncos please tell me how he would have played this game professionally?
Quote ="atomic"A new broadcaster for starters.There will be plenty queueing up.Including the BBC. More coverage,more schedule normality and better promotion of the game.'"
You do realise BBC will not pay anywhere near what sky pay for super league right?
How about premier sports and BBC share the coverage. We get lot less money but hey as long as Murdoch isn't near the sport who cares.
People who mention BBC as a viable TV broadcaster are truly living in a fantasy land. Let's actually entertain this idea of BBC holding super league rights for a minute. So at the moment we get three live games per week with the Catalan games. Love to hear how BBC would give us more live TV coverage.
You tell me where in BBC schedule we get more than 3 live games per week?
Oh and my god. You actually mentioned better promotion of the game. I mean it's not like the BBC have a proven track record of great promotion of the game right. Let us know about this great promotion they do for the challenge cup year in year out.
How about the super league show? BBC give that major exposure right, given a great TV time slot for maximum coverage.
Hell let's talk about the world cup. What did BBC do to promote that competition? BBC were so bothered about it that they chose themselves to only get the live TV rights for England games. That sure does sound like a TV broadcaster that has an interest in promoting the game.
By the way they have done exactly the same thing for the world cup in a few months. You still gonna claim BBC will give super league the promotion it deserves?
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| Quote ="atomic"A new broadcaster for starters.There will be plenty queueing up.Including the BBC. More coverage,more schedule normality and better promotion of the game.'"
The BBC? Is this some sort of wind up, or a parody account?
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| Quote ="atomic"A new broadcaster for starters.There will be plenty queueing up.Including the BBC. More coverage,more schedule normality and better promotion of the game.'"
Do you honestly think we would get enough from the BBC to sustain any sort of professionalism in Super League, never mind growth? Do you honestly see the BBC devoting prime broadcast slots to a regional sport?
There's currently no evidence that other broadcasters are interested in Super League, other than Premier Sports.
It's pretty clear that some of the posters on here are more than happy to see RL as a professional sport remain on life support, just as long as there club is in the top league when it flat-lines.
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