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| Oh, the old "its okay to do it because so and so is doing it" defence.
That's got as much credibility (and maturity) as "the dog ate my homework".
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"I did consider an alternative box, but unfortunately living in Hull we are saddled with one network supplier (Kcom) and very slow Internet.
So anything that relies on streaming just isn't an option, the supplier did suggest an IPTV solution, but until where in the 21st century it's satellite TV only.'"
Ah Kcom, the company that brought us KIT!
As of a few weeks ago I can now get Lightstream, which is being installed shortly.
Just hoping my Vista powered laptop can handle the excitement.
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| BT Sport has won the exclusive rights to show the European Rugby Champions Cup and Challenge Cup from the 2018-19 season to the end of 2021-22.
Up to 134 matches a season will be shown live on TV in the UK and Ireland over nine weekends.
On top of this, BT Sport also has the rights to the Aviva Premiership and the Anglo-Welsh Cup, It will show up to 69 live premiership matches this season.
Super League signing up to a new long term deal with sky early, without going to tender is looking a poor move when BT sport are outbidding Sky for RU.
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| Quote ="Sit down, Waldo"Ah Kcom, the company that brought us KIT!
As of a few weeks ago I can now get Lightstream, which is being installed shortly.
Just hoping my Vista powered laptop can handle the excitement.'"
yaa they told me it would be available this summer sometime, but don't forget, this is Kcom an installation date is not a working date !
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"yaa they told me it would be available this summer sometime, but don't forget, this is Kcom an installation date is not a working date !'"
Very true, probably best to reign in my expectations.
My mate had a KIT box. Briefly. He complained about the blurry picture & Kcom told him they broadcast in 'soft focus'...got uninstalled the next day!
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| I think the beer in my local is too expensive so I have been tunneling into their cellar.
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| Folk turn to streaming because that's the only way they can view a lot of sporting events live - not just because it's free. Even if you subscribe to every sports channel going on Sky, there are some games/events that you can't watch (PL games being an example).
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| That's just another excuse though isn't it. You don't have the right to see everything you want to, whether its a live event or not.
Just because you can stream things doesn't mean its morally or legally correct to do so.
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| Some decidedly fuzzy logic is in use in this thread, in a desperate attempt to justify illegal and immoral behaviour.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Some decidedly fuzzy logic is in use in this thread, in a desperate attempt to justify illegal and immoral behaviour.'"
Agreed, though it's fairly low on the scale. Akin to small-scale benefit fraud I'd say.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Agreed, though it's fairly low on the scale. Akin to small-scale benefit fraud I'd say.'"
YOU are right and their is lots of that going on
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| Channel 5 will be airing some of the BT sport RU matches(in full) next season in a deal with the host broadcasters.
RL is so far behind it makes you want to weep.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Channel 5 will be airing some of the BT sport RU matches(in full) next season in a deal with the host broadcasters.
RL is so far behind it makes you want to weep.'"
Pretty sure if the RFL had signed a deal with BT Sport and Channel 5 they'd be posters here complaining of their low subscriber numbers/viewing numbers and how this wouldnt help expand the game.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Pretty sure if the RFL had signed a deal with BT Sport and Channel 5 they'd be posters here complaining of their low subscriber numbers/viewing numbers and how this wouldnt help expand the game.'"
You are right but what a pity ITV don't show some games on one of their channels they should start with the leagues out side the super league to test the waters
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| Quote ="bren2k"Some decidedly fuzzy logic is in use in this thread, in a desperate attempt to justify illegal and immoral behaviour.'"
I presume you are referring to Rupert Murdoch and his empire here? Tax dodging, phone hacking, bribing public officials, subverting democracy though deliberate misinformation... the list is endless
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"I presume you are referring to Rupert Murdoch and his empire here? Tax dodging, phone hacking, bribing public officials, subverting democracy though deliberate misinformation... the list is endless'"
No I'm not; I'm referring to the silly idea that if you think something is too expensive or not worth the asking price, you are entitled to steal it.
I don't disagree with any of your analysis by the way - he's an odious individual - but so are plenty of business owners; I don't like Mike Ashley for example, but I don't help myself to the latest Nike trainers from Sports Direct as a form of protest.
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| Seems like these changes are imminent, coming into effect from July 18th.
The promo piece from Sky has the RL down on either Sky Sports Action or Sky Sports Arena. Right now it doesn't specify which, so my guess is they will be clever with it and will alternate which channels the RL matches are on thereby forcing us to subscribe to both channels rather than just one of them.
Still no details of prices.
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| £18 per month for a single channel. £22 for two, £26 for three £27.50 for all sports is reported in the press. It doesn't make it clear if this will be the same for virgin customers.
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| From what I can see, it is going to work out dearer for me. I currently get Sky Sports for £18 because of the discount you get when you have movies. What i'll end up with is 2 sports channels for an extra £4. Doesn't look great to me.
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| I don't understand this (taken from the Sky Sports website):
"A new Main Event channel dedicated to the biggest live events from across our channels - available to customers with the full range of Sky Sports channels"
If I've got the full range of Sky Sport channels, why would I need a Main Event channel dedicated to the biggest live events from those channels, unless some events are going to be exclusive to the Main Event channel ?
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"I don't understand this (taken from the Sky Sports website):
"A new Main Event channel dedicated to the biggest live events from across our channels - available to customers with the full range of Sky Sports channels"
If I've got the full range of Sky Sport channels, why would I need a Main Event channel dedicated to the biggest live events from those channels, unless some events are going to be exclusive to the Main Event channel ?'"
I've read that a few times myself and come to the conclusion that it must mean that these 'biggest live events' will be exclusive to the Main Event Channel, which will only be available to those with all Sports Channels. I may be wrong, but thats how I've interpreted it. The question is 'what are these biggest live events' going to be?
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| Well - at worst it could mean, for example, that the Super League rounds are on Sky Sports Action / Arena, but they only put the SL Play Offs / Grand Final on the Main Event channel......
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| Quote ="bren2k"Some decidedly fuzzy logic is in use in this thread, in a desperate attempt to justify illegal and immoral behaviour.'"
Agreed. My thinking is very simple - if you can afford something then you can buy it, if you can't afford it then you can't. I would like a new Aston Martin, but I can't afford it/choose not to want to spend that amount on one. Do I a) accept it and buy something different; b) Complain that Astons are too expensive and they should be cheaper so I can buy one, or c) Go and steal one?! The logic of some on here hovers between complaining they are too expensive and going out and stealing one! There are always some people that, just because others can afford something, think that they should also be entitled to have it too. 'I can't afford it, so I'll steal it instead' - great mentality that!
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Well - at worst it could mean, for example, that the Super League rounds are on Sky Sports Action / Arena, but they only put the SL Play Offs / Grand Final on the Main Event channel......'"
That thought had crossed my mind too. To be honest, it won't effect me as I have all channels currently and have no intention of changing. However, if they do that then I do think it would be a bad move on SKY's part
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