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| Why haven't the IRB been in touch with the UAERU to set them straight on who they have governance of and who they don't?
That 30 second telephone conversation would end the UAERUs confusion and end this debacle
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| Quote ="loiner81"So you've moved on from the UAE being a local spat then?'"
Nope......i didn't bring up Italy...just clarified it
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"Nope......i didn't bring up Italy...just clarified it'"
By quoting someone you've been disagreeing with throughout this thread?
Classic trolling
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| Quote ="loiner81"By quoting someone you've been disagreeing with throughout this thread?
Classic trolling
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so then, that's you done is it?
you dragged up Italy, you've been shown to be wrong, you're now name calling........step away from the shovel lad.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"www.rlif.com/rugby-league-international-news/article/1560/rlif-statement-regarding-the-uae
Sorry conspiracy theorists.......the IRB arent the bad guys here, they are supporting and helping the rlif sort out this LOCAL issue.'"
They don't need to work with anybody, they just need to pick up the phone and bring one of their members into line.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"They don't need to work with anybody, they just need to pick up the phone and bring one of their members into line.'"
you hsve little understanding of how thingsare down in the UAE. Sorting this out will take more than a phone call!
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"you hsve little understanding of how thingsare down in the UAE. Sorting this out will take more than a phone call!'"
And I suppose you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the legal and constitutional machinations of the UAE!
Regardless, you are wrong and your attempts to dismiss my charge against the IRB is an act of futility. They have a duty to reign in their rogue NGB and they are negligent of that duty. The question is why?
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| Might be worth remembering we are talking about a man's freedom.
This is not a petty argument of league vs union.
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| Quote ="GlobalRugby"Might be worth remembering we are talking about a man's freedom.
This is not a petty argument of league vs union.'"
And yet the FACT that World Rugby are assisting and supporting the RLIF in getting the charges dropped is ignored by those on here who love a good conspiracy.....the blokes iit on bail and a quid will get you a tenner all charges will be dropped......although his status as an illegal immigrant may be harder to deal with.
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| Why haven't the IRB just told the UAERU that they're wrong about holding any kind of Governance over Rugby League?
What business was it of the UAERU to demand action over the Rugby League competitions use of the word 'Rugby'?
On what basis did the UAERU conclude that the UAERL were guilty of fraud or 'passing off' in their dealings with Nissan?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Why haven't the IRB just told the UAERU that they're wrong about holding any kind of Governance over Rugby League?
What business was it of the UAERU to demand action over the Rugby League competitions use of the word 'Rugby'?
On what basis did the UAERU conclude that the UAERL were guilty of fraud or 'passing off' in their dealings with Nissan?'"
As I've said all along...its a local issue that wasn't part of any global conspiracy. The easiest way to sort out the fraud charge is ask Nissan what they thought they were sponsoring.....the other stuff around governance is what the rlif and world rugby are sorting out.
All of this came about because the correct procedure when setting up a sport in UAE wasn't followed and the local union lot stuck their oar in where it wasn't needed......unless it turns out Tha Nissan thought they were sponsoring union......as I say, ask Nissan.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"As I've said all along...its a local issue that wasn't part of any global conspiracy. The easiest way to sort out the fraud charge is ask Nissan what they thought they were sponsoring.....the other stuff around governance is what the rlif and world rugby are sorting out.
All of this came about because the correct procedure when setting up a sport in UAE wasn't followed and the local union lot stuck their oar in where it wasn't needed......unless it turns out Tha Nissan thought they were sponsoring union......as I say, ask Nissan.'"
None of that has anything to do with UAERU!
Just answer the questions!
Once they started their action against UAERL and made statements about being the only sanctioned body in the UAE which Governed 'Rugby' of all denominations, the IRB could and should have stepped in to set one of their members straight, should they not?
Why should Nissan be contacted? It's none of the UAERUs business, they're making a baseless claim of fraud or 'Passing Off'! Will they be contacting other sponsors from Netball, football etc as well?
The only organisation which is out of order here is the UAERU! They have made false claims about Governing sports for which they have zero authority!
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| I'm pretty sure that the charge relating to Nissan is immaterial and was based on the idea that the RL competition was illegal rather than any sort of deception.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Once they started their action against UAERL and made statements about being the only sanctioned body in the UAE which Governed 'Rugby' of all denominations, the IRB could and should have stepped in to set one of their members straight, should they not?'"
You assume the IRB were aware of what was going on in UAE. Given only a freelance journalist in Australia felt the story worth covering, it's safe to assume that the IRB were unaare that there was some score settling of a local nature going on.
Quote ="The Avenger"Why should Nissan be contacted? It's none of the UAERUs business, they're making a baseless claim of fraud or 'Passing Off'! Will they be contacting other sponsors from Netball, football etc as well?'"
Baseless? Are you aware that the owners of the Nissan Franchise that were paying for naming rights knew 100% that they were sponsoring league and not under the impression that they were sponsoring Rugby? It would seem a very strange course of action for the UAERF to press these charges that will have to be seen by a court of the land if they were baseless.
Quote ="The Avenger"The only organisation which is out of order here is the UAERU! They have made false claims about Governing sports for which they have zero authority!'"
I don't disagree about the claims of governance, but as for organisations being out of order, the entire RL set up in the UAE was in fact illegal, not registered and being administered by an illegal alien/immigrant. Whilst you can take offence at the apparent lack of morals by the Union lot, they aren't the ones breaking the laws of the UAE........the bloke out on bail did that....a number of ways it would seem.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"And yet the FACT that World Rugby are assisting and supporting the RLIF in getting the charges dropped is ignored by those on here who love a good conspiracy.....the blokes iit on bail and a quid will get you a tenner all charges will be dropped......although his status as an illegal immigrant may be harder to deal with.'"
The fact you choose to troll that comment shows you need help.
Plus you have no grasps of the facts.
He is not on bail. The charges are not being dropped.
World Rugby appear to have done nothing.
The immigration status appears to be a problem only now uaerugby want him dealt with.
He has lived in the emirates a long time.
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| Quote ="GlobalRugby"The fact you choose to troll that comment shows you need help.
Plus you have no grasps of the facts.
He is not on bail. The charges are not being dropped.
World Rugby appear to have done nothing.
The immigration status appears to be a problem only now uaerugby want him dealt with.
He has lived in the emirates a long time.'"
Yes exactly, for a so called World organisation they appear to be nothing more than petty vindictive bullies who care not who's life they ruin as long as their interests get protected.
It's shameful behaviour of which they ought to be truly embarrassed yet they won't be because they have no conscience
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| Quote ="GlobalRugby"
He has lived in the emirates a long time.'"
Illegally......you forgot the word illegally.
Saying he's lived there a long time and got away with it is like saying its ok to be a bank robber until you get caught.
I repeat. You can morally question the union lot, but as it stands, from a LEGAL standpoint in terms of the laws governing immigration and sports governance in the UAE then this guy is in the wrong and them's the facts
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| Mokdad is still in jail and according to Steve Mascord there are attempts being made to coerce him to sign over the UAERL to RU authorities, which so far he's refusing. Shocking state of affairs.
And for 'Jim Pooley', the IRB have reportedly instructed UAERU to drop the charges but they won't listen. The next step is for the IRB to expel them and ban UAE from future international RU competitions. Considering they are harboring an organization that is illegally holding a man prisoner for organizing a rival sport, you'd have to think there would also be sanctions towards the IRB from the IOC and other related bodies if they don't do everything in their power to rectify this situation. Somehow I doubt any of this will happen.
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| So to clarify......this is now very much a local issue given the irb are being ignored.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"So to clarify......this is now very much a local issue given the irb are being ignored.'" Do you think that a man's freedom being taken away simply for playing the wrong sport is a local issue? Of course not, it's something that requires international attention. The situation in Syria is a 'local issue' but that doesn't mean we should just ignore it or that it's not relevant.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Do you think that a man's freedom being taken away simply for playing the wrong sport is a local issue? Of course not, it's something that requires international attention. The situation in Syria is a 'local issue' but that doesn't mean we should just ignore it or that it's not relevant.'"
If he was arrested for playing a game...id be all over this like a rash butbhebwasbarrested for administrating a game that's not registered and now it turns out he is there illegally.
As for Syria.....get a grip man.......first you drag up the holocaust and now syrua? Nutcases like you do more damage to league than any imaginary conspiracies
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"If he was arrested for playing a game...id be all over this like a rash butbhebwasbarrested for administrating a game that's not registered and now it turns out he is there illegally.
As for Syria.....get a grip man.......first you drag up the holocaust and now syrua? Nutcases like you do more damage to league than any imaginary conspiracies
'" Because you don't seem to understand that a 'local issue' is no longer a local issue when liberties are infringed and it requires international attention to rectify. Clearly we aren't fighting a war but in sporting terms this is very serious as a man has been arrested. And no, he wasn't arrested for not adhering to policy, he was arrested for administrating RL, which the UAERU apparently deemed to be an attack on their organization. He was administrating RL for years without issue prior to them getting involved. And if you're seriously buying into and propagating this 'illegal immigrant' story without a hint of irony or skepticism then you clearly are as dumb as your posts suggest. BTW the head of UAE Touch federation, also a non-Emirati ex-pat administrating a similar 'unregistered game', is currently walking free.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Because you don't seem to understand that a 'local issue' is no longer a local issue when liberties are infringed and it requires international attention to rectify. Clearly we aren't fighting a war but in sporting terms this is very serious as a man has been arrested. And no, he wasn't arrested for not adhering to policy, he was arrested for administrating RL, which the UAERU apparently deemed to be an attack on their organization. He was administrating RL for years without issue prior to them getting involved. And if you're seriously buying into and propagating this 'illegal immigrant' story without a hint of irony or skepticism then you clearly are as dumb as your posts suggest. BTW the head of UAE Touch federation, also a non-Emirati ex-pat administrating a similar 'unregistered game', is currently walking free.'"
I repeat....as morally repugnant as the union in UAE has behaved, only one party has broken the law. He is illegally there, the game he wanted to govern was t registered and the big bad nasty irb have tried to intervene but have little influence in a country that is not renowned for level handed handling of issues.......it is a local.issue.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"only one party has broken the law. He is illegally there.'"
So now you're Judge and Jury!
You've found him guilty without a trial or even knowing the full facts
You are detestable
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