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| Your comparing the jnr pool in hull shared by two teams to the entire French jnr pool???
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Your comparing the jnr pool in hull shared by two teams to the entire French jnr pool???'"
im comparing the number of SL players HKR have brought through to the number of players Les Catalans have brought through.
If there isnt the player pool in Hull, there shouldnt be two teams in Hull
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| if we are using number of jnrs playing the game as some bizarre test for SL eligibility then we could end up with a very small comp! I'd suggest there is more players from Hull running around in SL then French players despite there being 25% of the number of jnrs playing the game in the area compared to the whole of France. A pretty damning reflection of just how poor the French jnr development systems and Catalans in particular are. But not to worry there's always NSW cup reserve graders to top up the ranks.
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| Do you mean reserve graders like Rhys Lovegrove? Ken Sio? Josh Mantellato? Or are we talking about those topping up their pension like Neville Costigan or Mick Weyman?
You can suggest there are more players from Hull than there are French players, but they certainly arent coming from Hull KR, if they were, perhaps they wouldnt be needing to import french juniors whom Catalans have failed to develop to top up the ranks. Like Kevin Larroyer.
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| never in a gagillion years was there 6,900 at hudds.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Is it an advantage?
How many other sides are running with 8/9/10 of their own academy products in a 17? not very many and it is only Leeds, Wigan, Saints who are around that level. The team they played last week in Huddersfield had only 3 of their academy products on show.
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Did I suggest Catalans only had Catalans academy players? No, last time I looked there were a dozen or so other semi pro clubs in France , all capable of nurturing the next French Chris Hill or Zac Hardacker along with many other players
Either way I posted a question, some have eventually discussed it in a reasonable manner
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| Quote ="Starbug"Did I suggest Catalans only had Catalans academy players? No, last time I looked there were a dozen or so other semi pro clubs in France , all capable of nurturing the next French Chris Hill or Zac Hardacker along with many other players
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Julien Bosquet and Morgan Escare are young players who have come through the Catalan/French system and have become full internationals, just like Hill and Hardaker.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"if we are using number of jnrs playing the game as some bizarre test for SL eligibility then we could end up with a very small comp! I'd suggest there is more players from Hull running around in SL then French players despite there being 25% of the number of jnrs playing the game in the area compared to the whole of France. A pretty damning reflection of just how poor the French jnr development systems and Catalans in particular are. But not to worry there's always NSW cup reserve graders to top up the ranks.'"
I know when you look on your map France is quite big, you do know they don't all play rugby don't you?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Did I suggest Catalans only had Catalans academy players? No, last time I looked there were a dozen or so other semi pro clubs in France , all capable of nurturing the next French Chris Hill or Zac Hardacker along with many other players
Either way I posted a question, some have eventually discussed it in a reasonable manner'"
there arent that many players who have come through a semi-pro academy/development set up and progressed to SL. If all the french semi-pro clubs are capable of nurturing the next Chris Hill or Zak Hardaker, why arent the british semi-pro clubs? Why arent there products of every Championship and C1 club in SL?
By definition of being the only pro pathway in France, it stands to reason that if Catalans are to be filled with french players, they will be filled with Catalan products.
Im simply questioning whether having a whole country of young players is the benefit it seems
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"there arent that many players who have come through a semi-pro academy/development set up and progressed to SL. If all the french semi-pro clubs are capable of nurturing the next Chris Hill or Zak Hardaker, why arent the british semi-pro clubs? Why arent there products of every Championship and C1 club in SL?
By definition of being the only pro pathway in France, it stands to reason that if Catalans are to be filled with french players, they will be filled with Catalan products.
Im simply questioning whether having a whole country of young players is the benefit it seems'"
"having a whole country" to pick from, would be a substantial advantage, if the whole country participated in the sport of RL.
Catalan are doing ok and if the sport was serious about expansion, surely we would have a second French SL club in SL.
Sadly, with the move back to P/R, this looks less likely (unless the "extra" this club was given exemption from relegation)
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