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Squeeky bum time now.

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Is Zac a homophobe? ,probably not

Is Louie Suarez a vampire? ,probably not

Its just the way these 2 individuals seem to vent their anger/frustration

Do you still think Rangi Chase didn't elbow Ropati?

He didn't, even the RFL saw that. He was done for a high tackle (maybe use of the shoulder too?)

You know, like Joel Moon tonight?

Where does the elbow end and the shoulder start?

The Humerus?

Another Leeds player witch hunt?

Ah, must be playoff time.

Both player on twitter laughing about it saying it was a good crack after mark tweeted a emoticon of blowing a kiss

Leopard and spots come to mind.

Earning Corn.

Hardly.





As for the line in question. If someone is found guilty of homophobic abuse does that make them homophobic??

I'm not an expert on these matters. But in terms of calling a spade a shovel. It would seem to be a matter of if the boot fits?

As for a witch hunt on Hardacker? Why would there be a witch hunt for him. He has not personally slighted me or anyone I know. To be honest I had no opinion on his one way or the other. But I'm sure he wishes Vine was never invented.

Im a neutral and watched it a few times and I guess its possible he said puff but my first few impressions were that he could have called him a pussy.

I watched the Video now a few times & I haven't a clue what he said & I don't think anything will come of this.
Unless an Official or Player makes a complaint .

A lot of Leeds fans on social media saying he said prick. The last time I checked prick was spelt with a pr and not a pu. I don't think he sad puff either. He is still finishing the word off as he turns away and it looks to me like he actually said pussy.

Just thought i'd quote this again for the witch hunters.

Exactly! Wasn't it the same gomper who considered Sinny's "headbutt" to be GBH as well?

No witch hunters here, only those who hate homophobic abuse! I presume your okay with that sort of thing though

Leeds fans really need to get a grip of this "everyone picks on Leeds attitude"' it really is quite childish.

Theres no evidence of homophobic abuse from hardaker last night. Don't presume to tell me what i'm OK with, just because I haven't joined the witch hunt and hung hardaker out to dry without a shred of credible evidence.

So there has been a witch hunt.

If the issue here was whether Zak Hardaker and said Saints player could remain mates, then your quote might have a point. But as it stands, you're still failing to see the issue here. The fact that a few Leeds fans are finding the thought of homophobic abuse from a player previously banned for it, so UTTERLY implausible is embarrassing. Yes, it might be that people are reaching, but combined with the hand gestures you're acting like it's somehow impossible for people to imply what he said? It's not just 1 or 2 people here.

despite a video showing quite clearly that he says f**king puff

I never said it's utterly implausible. People are hanging him out to dry based on speculation and inconclusive evidence. Death by twitter, forums and facebook.

At the end of the day, if hardaker said what everyone on here think it'll be cited and he'll be banned, because plenty of people were in ear shot and flannagan heard what he said. But until that happens the comments on here are ridiculous.

You can't be sure of what he said and nor can anyone else on here. The only people who know are the people on the pitch stodd around Zak.

Has it been cited yet?

Video evidence is not "speculation", for what it's worth. People are hanging him out to dry based on his previous homophobia and video which clearly which show him saying "f-ing p___" (some people say prick, some people say puff, etc), and people are quite obviously going to infer BECAUSE of his previous actions. This is a forum, so wind your neck in.

If it was a serious concern for these people I would give it some credibility but it's a rival set of supporters trying to poop-stir and nothing else. You even use the word "imply" yourself which suggests there is no indisputable evidence to prove what was said therefore there is no case.