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| Good news is not and will never be tolerated in Rugby League.
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| Quote ="Ande"Good news is not and will never be tolerated in Rugby League.
Go find somewhere else to show your joy!'"
Oh, it is not the announcement of Good news that bothers me...in fact, I say again that the audience figures announced are spectacular and further proof of how the RLWC Legacy is shining like a beacon, guiding the game forward, but the sudden need to compare bananas with apples, mickles with muckles and Union with League. Such "pointless" comparisons are normally shouted down with cries of "foul" and "union troll"....it does seem strange that they are now welcomed with open arms.
I wonder will that be the case in all future instances of comparison?
There is also the can of worms that crowing about this increase in audience does open up......as in, if the game continues to capture such impressive audience figures, or even better, grows them further, it does raise the subject of exactly how good the deal starting in 2017 will actually be, when we get to 2017.
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| Since attendance threads are banned, it's handy that we can at least find this one easily enough, due to the clever use of ALL CAPS in the title.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Oh, it is not the announcement of Good news that bothers me...in fact, I say again that the audience figures announced are spectacular and further proof of how the RLWC Legacy is shining like a beacon, guiding the game forward, but the sudden need to compare bananas with apples, mickles with muckles and Union with League. Such "pointless" comparisons are normally shouted down with cries of "foul" and "union troll"....it does seem strange that they are now welcomed with open arms.
I wonder will that be the case in all future instances of comparison?
There is also the can of worms that crowing about this increase in audience does open up......as in, if the game continues to capture such impressive audience figures, or even better, grows them further, it does raise the subject of exactly how good the deal starting in 2017 will actually be, when we get to 2017.'"
What's good for the goose........
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"What's good for the goose........'"
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"What's good for the goose........'"
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| Quote ="Desperately running out of ideas"Ahh, but that's because the RFL did the very same today. They compared SL viewing figures to Aviva Premiership viewing figures, so comparisons between RL and RU are no longer boring and it's now OK to do so. '"
Are the RFL not just comparing figures with (football aside) the 2 most watched sporting events broadcast on other channels last weekend and for obvious reasons of course as it helps to reinforce just how good the SKY deal is.
RU just happened to be one of them, which has gotten the usual suspects in an orgasmic tizzy, but so did Darts. How come we don't get darts attendances, sponsorship figures and TV license deals day after day after day after day after day...
"The audience was also 288,000 more than tuned in to watch the live Premiership rugby union match, Worcester v Leicester on BT Sport 1, which was watched by 65,200 people – 543 per cent higher - and 293,500 (593 per cent) more than the 59,500 who watched live World Trophy darts on Eurosport."
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Since attendance threads are banned, it's handy that we can at least find this one easily enough, due to the clever use of ALL CAPS in the title.'"
Don't worry, there will be attendance thread exceptions which shall be encouraged and allowed, so long as they focus on just the positives. I predict that this weekend's Hull KR V Leeds attendance will get plenty of positive coverage on these forums. Just don't mention any negative one's.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Don't worry, there will be attendance thread exceptions which shall be encouraged and allowed, so long as they focus on just the positives ... Just don't mention any negative one's.'"
Can we therefore monitor the difference between attendees and stadium capacity, since we're not directly comparing attendance (i.e. as a percentage of free "space" - ableit then we'd probably argue that (say) that Bradford supporters are fatter than London supporters, so 26% free space at Odsal might actually mean people are still closer together than 15% free space at The Hive).
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"- ableit then we'd probably argue that (say) that Bradford supporters are fatter than London supporters,'"
Well they are on a daily diet of bull up there
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| Glad to see all those Stobarts mobile SKY adverts are finally paying off
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| Quote ="Starbug"Glad to see all those Stobarts mobile SKY adverts are finally paying off
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Funnily enough I saw one the other week up near Carlisle. I thought they would have all been removed by now but apparantly not.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Funnily enough I saw one the other week up near Carlisle. I thought they would have all been removed by now but apparantly not.'"
Same here. The Cas one. It's now got an ad for the magic weekend splattered over the back of it.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Same here. The Cas one. It's now got an ad for the magic weekend splattered over the back of it.'"
The principle behind the idea is potentially a good one, specifically if aimed at promoting the matches on SKY, if it had been a deal like the ' IRN BRU ' on SKY rather than the named primary sponsor, however how the " Its all about following your local team " fits into that who knows
I wonder what the ' lifespan ' of a side curtain on a Stobart truck actually is ? , I doubt they'll change them until they have to
An interesting point on sports attendance is on show at the moment, despite it being 2 Premiership clubs on show the Stadium Of Light is looking very sparce for a Cup match to be 2 matches from Wembly, Season Ticket only football fans as well it would seem
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| Quote ="Starbug"The principle behind the idea is potentially a good one, specifically if aimed at promoting the matches on SKY, if it had been a deal like the ' IRN BRU ' on SKY rather than the named primary sponsor, however how the " Its all about following your local team " fits into that who knows
I wonder what the ' lifespan ' of a side curtain on a Stobart truck actually is ? , I doubt they'll change them until they have to
An interesting point on sports attendance is on show at the moment, despite it being 2 Premiership clubs on show the Stadium Of Light is looking very sparce for a Cup match to be 2 matches from Wembly, Season Ticket only football fans as well it would seem'"
The Stobart adverts weren't on the curtainsde vehicles, they were on "rigids" and it either needs a long time exposed to the elements or a tin of paint.
In actual fact they are probably transfers and could be removed and something else put on instead.
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| Quote ="Starbug"An interesting point on sports attendance is on show at the moment, despite it being 2 Premiership clubs on show the Stadium Of Light is looking very sparce for a Cup match to be 2 matches from Wembly, Season Ticket only football fans as well it would seem'"
Exactly. People have been making out the drop in CC attendances is the fault of SL and the RFL but in reality domestic cup competitions don't hold the same appeal anymore.....not just in RL. Man City are playing Chelsea later, nobody is really fussed who wins.....nothing like when the two met in the league a few weeks back. Most of the build-up has centred around Mourinho's mind games over Pellegrini and others and how this would effect the title race. Not that arguably the 2 strongest teams in the country are clashing.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"domestic cup competitions don't hold the same appeal anymore.....not just in RL. Man City are playing Chelsea later, nobody is really fussed who wins.'"
Oooops......47,013 seats filled out of 47,800. Not sure if your point still carries much weight when discussing Challenge Cup attendances........blast those 1.17% empty seats
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Oooops......47,013 seats filled out of 47,800. Not sure if your point still carries much weight when discussing Challenge Cup attendances........blast those 1.17% empty seats
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Do read dear boy.
I said no one would be really fussed who won. Chelsea fans and probably their manager won't be bothered they're out. Have a Liverpool fan at work, even last week he said he hoped they'd lose so they can just concentrate on the league.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Do read dear boy.'"
condescending pr1ck....I can read just fine thanks.
Quote ="ThePrinter"Exactly. People have been making out [size=150the drop in CC attendances [/sizeis the fault of SL and the RFL but in reality domestic cup competitions don't hold the same appeal anymore.....[size=150not just in RL[/size.'"
As I said, 47,013 in attendance at the game blows holes in your badly thought out sweeping and incorrect comments.....Water-cooler moments aside
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Do read dear boy.
I said no one would be really fussed who won. Chelsea fans and probably their manager won't be bothered they're out. Have a Liverpool fan at work, even last week he said he hoped they'd lose so they can just concentrate on the league.'"
Oh yeah no one cared, they just held 47k people at gun-point and made them go to the game.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool" they just held 47k people at gun-point.'"
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[size=150=#FF0000BREAKING NEWS!!![/size
RFL discovered to be talking bollox [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29472/records-fall-as-first-utilityHERE[/url about the record breaking, smashing all box office records figure of 353,000 viewers tuning into the Wigan V Huddersfield opening SL fixture on Sky Sports 1 on Friday 7th Feb.
The actual viewing figure was 243,000 according to www.barb.co.uk which was beaten by Premier League Darts viewing figures of 284,000 the night before (Thu 6th Feb)
Sky Sports 1
w/e 9 Feb 2014
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1 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1525) 1,910
2 LIVE FORD MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (MON 1900) 1,598
3 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1230) 1,133
4 FORD SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL LIVE (SAT 1657) 697
5 FL72 LIVE - YEOVIL V LEEDS (SAT 1200) 374
6 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY 09-10 (SAT 1500) 338
7 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS/#PREMIER LEAGU (THU 1900 284
=#FF00008 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1900) 243
9 REAL MADRID V AT MADRID-LIVE (WED 1855) 241
10 REAL SOCIEDAD V LEVANTE-LIVE (SUN 1830) 219
...(*Source: barb.co.uk)
They also told porkies about the viewing figures for the Aviva Premiership game on BT Sport 1 which registered 75,000 viewers according to BARB as opposed to the 65,200 claimed by the RFL.
BT Sport 1
w/e 9 Feb 2014
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1 BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE (SAT 1200) 973
2 FA CUP (WED 1915) 127
=#FF00003 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (FRI 1900) 75
4 FRENCH LIGUE 1 (SUN 1955) 51
5 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SAT 1830) 45
6 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SUN 1200) 44
7 NBA (SAT 1506) 40
8 SERIE A (MON 1943) 29
9 GOAL! BUNDESLIGA PREVIEW (THU 2059) 24
10 FRENCH LEAGUE CUP (TUE 195icon_cool.gif 20
...(* Source: barb.co.uk)
[u To summarise the RFL horse earlier this week.....[/u
1. The 353,000 was actually 243,000 which was less than the 251,000 viewers who tuned into the Widnes V Wakey SL opener in 2012.
2. The alleged 38% increase in viewing figures on last season's SL opener was actually 29% (243K v 188K).
3. The alleged extra 288,000 viewers tuning into Super League on 7th Feb which was alleged to be 543% higher than the alleged viewers for the Union game on the much smaller BT Sport subscription base was actually an extra 168,000 which is 324% higher (243K v 75K).
4. I expect the RFL viewing comparison to BDO Darts on Eurosport (A desperate RFL or what? Well, they are hardly going to compare the figures with Premier League Darts for obvious reasons ) are garbage as well since according to BARB, Eurosport haven't reported any viewing figures for that week.
5. RFL Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics by plenty
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[size=150=#FF0000BREAKING NEWS!!![/size
RFL discovered to be talking bollox [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29472/records-fall-as-first-utilityHERE[/url about the record breaking, smashing all box office records figure of 353,000 viewers tuning into the Wigan V Huddersfield opening SL fixture on Sky Sports 1 on Friday 7th Feb.
The actual viewing figure was 243,000 according to www.barb.co.uk which was beaten by Premier League Darts viewing figures of 284,000 the night before (Thu 6th Feb)
Sky Sports 1
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1 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1525) 1,910
2 LIVE FORD MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (MON 1900) 1,598
3 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1230) 1,133
4 FORD SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL LIVE (SAT 1657) 697
5 FL72 LIVE - YEOVIL V LEEDS (SAT 1200) 374
6 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY 09-10 (SAT 1500) 338
7 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS/#PREMIER LEAGU (THU 1900 284
=#FF00008 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1900) 243
9 REAL MADRID V AT MADRID-LIVE (WED 1855) 241
10 REAL SOCIEDAD V LEVANTE-LIVE (SUN 1830) 219
...(*Source: barb.co.uk)
They also told porkies about the viewing figures for the Aviva Premiership game on BT Sport 1 which registered 75,000 viewers according to BARB as opposed to the 65,200 claimed by the RFL.
BT Sport 1
w/e 9 Feb 2014
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1 BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE (SAT 1200) 973
2 FA CUP (WED 1915) 127
=#FF00003 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (FRI 1900) 75
4 FRENCH LIGUE 1 (SUN 1955) 51
5 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SAT 1830) 45
6 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SUN 1200) 44
7 NBA (SAT 1506) 40
8 SERIE A (MON 1943) 29
9 GOAL! BUNDESLIGA PREVIEW (THU 2059) 24
10 FRENCH LEAGUE CUP (TUE 195icon_cool.gif 20
...(* Source: barb.co.uk)
[u To summarise the RFL horse earlier this week.....[/u
1. The 353,000 was actually 243,000 which was less than the 251,000 viewers who tuned into the Widnes V Wakey SL opener in 2012.
2. The alleged 38% increase in viewing figures on last season's SL opener was actually 29% (243K v 188K).
3. The alleged extra 288,000 viewers tuning into Super League on 7th Feb which was alleged to be 543% higher than the alleged viewers for the Union game on the much smaller BT Sport subscription base was actually an extra 168,000 which is 324% higher (243K v 75K).
4. I expect the RFL viewing comparison to BDO Darts on Eurosport (A desperate RFL or what? Well, they are hardly going to compare the figures with Premier League Darts for obvious reasons ) are garbage as well since according to BARB, Eurosport haven't reported any viewing figures for that week.
5. RFL Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics by plenty
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Record breaking figures!
Box office records smashed!
RLWC legacy, blah, blah, blah...
Yet Widnes V Wakey in 2012 had more viewers tuning in than Wigan V Hudds in 2014.
[i"To record such a massive audience, one which dwarfs every other competing sports programme"[/i according to Ralph Rimmer
Wigan V Hudds was only competing against an Aviva Premiership game on BT Sport and BDO Darts on Eurosport that night FFS
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| [uPHOENIX NIGHTS LEAGUE TABLE - Week 1[/u
1. Premier League Darts 6/2/14 - 284,000
2. Wigan V Huddersfield 7/2/14 - 243,000
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