Anyone defending against Aussie will struggle - it's what they do

However with Cudjoe and Watkins I think we have our best chance, certainly Cudjoe's defence is outstandingly good on the flanks

I'd still like to hear who these supposed overseas stars are you are referring to?

I wouldn't play Shenton, but the point about left sided centres is valid, Only Ablett (part time centre) and Atkins are naturally left sided out of pretty much all of the names mentioned.

Ratchford is a good shout and Widdop has played left centre too, but a long time ago.

Cudjoe is happy down either flank FWIW

I would imagine he is thinking along the lines of, matty johns,brett dallas,darren albert,jamie lyon,trent barrett,steve renouf,alan langer,david furner,chris mckenna,stephen kearney,shaun berrigan,ali lauiatiti,stacy jones,brad mackay,logan swann.thats just quickly off the top of my head you could go on and on with the big names coming over through the first ten years of SL.the quality has seriously dried up the past few years.

Watkins if fit, Ablett and goulding for me...

Goulding maybe, at least he is a centre though well below Watkins and Cudjoe

Ablett isn't even a good second row and he's a worse centre

I dont like Leeds either but come on mate. I know one game doesnt prove the statement right or wrong but he was awesome against Saints in the playoff game and shows what he is capable of. Although I agree i wouldnt have him anywhere near centre in a SL game never mind International.

cudjoe has had 1 good game in an important match and that was against leeds then went missing in the next, he is so overrated its becoming a joke. Goulding isn't the best in the world but he's better than cudjoe hands down and i don't particularly rate Goulding highly at least he's consistent in performances and knows charnley.

Goulding and Charnley would have been a better bet than Charnley and Watkins.
The Wigan pair have sorted out their defensive problems whereas Watkins proves on a weekly basis he's defensively hopeless, he is a better attacking option than Goulding.
The 9s should be McIlorum to start then Roby off the bench.
As for scrum half, I just don't want Chase in there, I don't buy it at all.
Chase out and Matty Smith in, or, have a chat with Danny boy to try and talk him round to playing for England

Chase is so much better and more talented than Smith it's not funny.

I'm not on about his ability.
I don't like the residential qualifications required which allow you to play for England. Should be based on being born in the country or a recent forebearer born in England IMO.
I know he's a better player than Smith but it hasn't worked yet for him in the England shirt.

no ones mentioned hardaker? didnt he play centre when we played exiles this year?

Carl Ablett is a very good SL player and one that contributes greatly to Leeds and their past success. But he hasn't got the extra level required to step up and be an international player. The same goes for Jamie Jones-Buchanan. Workmanlike. And workmanlike doesn't win you World Cups.

Think some are being over critical of Ablett. He's a very good centre when played on the left side (played very well with Hall before). He also has that rare and good asset of coming up with something in big games and not go hiding in them like some do. He's also probably been Leeds' best player over the last month or so, so in good form. I'd feel more confident seeing him at centre than Cudjoe and possibly even defensively worrying Watkins.

As for Hardaker at possible centre. He can come up with good stuff there for himself but his supply to his winger is non-existent.

If he rubs the opposition up the wrong way in international like he seems to do in SL that could be an asset.

watkins and cudjoe the England centres for the world cup.

cudjoe will let no one down, class act and for the best centre in super league. Had a poor game last time out but been brilliant all season..his defence is awesome and attack is improving year on year

His attack is, stat wise, better than any other centre in Superleague barring Watkins who has a slightly higher strike rate but makes more errors

Yes and he was absolutely dire

cant have been that bad bagged a try, better than some options mentioned on here.

As dire as Brough the year before?

Given the very ordinary season the Leeds Rhinos have had this year along with their failure to win when it really counts, it beggars belief that there's 7 of their players selected in the England squad of 24.

Looking at those that have been included who do you think should not be in the squad:

Hall - definitely should be
Watkins - without a doubt
Briscoe - another shoe in
Hardaker - after Tomkins the best english FB in SL
Sinfield - he is the captain so has to be in
Ablett - Westwood apart as good as any second row in SL
Burrow - I would not have included him

Burrow apart every other player is in on merit - do you disagree and if so which players would you have picked instead?

Hall - has to be selected despite his ordinary season.

Watkins - no other viable options but I'm still not keen. He's a show pony who cannot even defend well at SL level. Such a shame that Jack Reed is injured.

Briscoe - way behind Charnley and Hall. Seems a waste of a squad place on another winger.

Hardaker - Ratchford is better.

Sinfield - just completed his worst and most ineffective season ever. Should have retired from international RL after the disastrous 2008 World Cup along with Rob Burrow. I'd have gone for Widdop at 6 and Matty Smith at 7.

Ablett - I can see what he offers at SL level but what has this niggly lump got to offer at international level? Seriously? Is it his SL-level utility value? No thanks. Waste of squad place.

Burrow - see above. Duck, duck, quack, quack, dive, dive, crab across field, can't execute a pass, and when he does it's usually forward, neither a scrum half or a hooker.

for once i cant believe it but i agree with william eve on his assesment of the rhinos in the squad, the only one worth his place to me is ryan hall, dont get all the cudjoe knockers for me watkins is much more of a worry to me, his defence is shocking at SL level nevermind international level, not overly convinced with his attack either.