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| Cant believe Wakefield got the license in front of Halifax. Lucky, lucky team. But the hard work starts now Wakie,last chance saloon for you now!!!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Well all after me
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Was thinking the same thing, thought I better not!
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But I can understand the frustration of fax fans this morning, my initial feeling was delight for wakey but on second thoughts this would have been the perfect time to give them a shot. Wakefield were down, they knew it. Fax have done a lot right to get themselves in this position and Wakefield are still living on certain promises. Hopefully fax will get their chance sooner rather than later.
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| Im a Trinity fan, and very sorry for those fans who are today disappointed at having their expectations dashed. The facts are that none of us have seen the respective aplications so our comments here are pure conjecture. Now Im the first one to criticise some of our fans for their paranoia about the RL world hating us - I don't believe it does. At the same time however I struggle to find any evidence that we are in any way favoured SO to those Fax fans choosing to express their disapointment today by lashing out at our club I ask you this;
If, as many assert, the Fax aplication was so obviously better than Trinity's what possible reasons might the RFL have for accepting our inferior aplication and rejecting your superior one?
Is it at all possible that without ticking the sexy stadium box the higher ups at WTRLFC have done some good work that makes their aplication stronger than yours?
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| I don't see what all the crying is about from Fax.
The crowd figures were massaged to get over the 2500 mark at the end of last year, your coach has just walked out, the side's full antipodeans and hardly any local players, I was definitely asked (and obliged) to putting some money in a begging bucket at the Shay a few years ago, and the only reason the ground's up to speed is because it's council owned.
I suggest Fax do as Widnes did, listen to the feedback, jump through the right hoops and accept this decision with a little dignity.
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| Quote ="Graeme Smith"I don't see what all the crying is about from Fax.
The crowd figures were massaged to get over the 2500 mark at the end of last year, your coach has just walked out, the side's full antipodeans and hardly any local players, I was definitely asked (and obliged) to putting some money in a begging bucket at the Shay a few years ago, and the only reason the ground's up to speed is because it's council owned.
I suggest Fax do as Widnes did, listen to the feedback, jump through the right hoops and accept this decision with a little dignity.'"
It's the total binning of the RFL's assessment criteria that irks. Lewis even waffled on about how licensing would bring financial stability and then, in the next breath announced that a club which had gone into administration whilst holding a license were to be given another one. The RFL denied Widnes entry three years ago on that very basis. Dignity? How about a bit of integrity? The RFL should re-assess it's criteria requirements and bloody well stick to them!!!
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| Quote ="littlerich"It's the total binning of the RFL's assessment criteria that irks. Lewis even waffled on about how licensing would bring financial stability and then, in the next breath announced that a club which had gone into administration whilst holding a license were to be given another one. The RFL denied Widnes entry three years ago on that very basis. Dignity? How about a bit of integrity? The RFL should re-assess it's criteria requirements and bloody well stick to them!!!'"
You would prefer a 13 team league then?
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| Integrity at Red Hall, just another cock-up following on from the Wigan debacle & the Hull FC Challenge Cup fiasco .
Never mind the clubs, the governing body should be reviewed on a three year cycle, heads should roll.
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| The RFL seem to like moving the goal posts. This latest decision would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
Until promotion and relegation is restored no-one will ever be happy with the franchise situation. Even the end of season playoffs are there purely as money making exercises. A play off should only be needed if it were decided that the bottom team in SL played the top team in the Championship for a place in SL. At the moment why bother winning the League? You can do that by finishing 6th !
I am becoming disillusioned with RL. The whole set up stinks. Strange it has only been like this since SL, I spent 25 years happily watching RL before SL came along.
Hell I might even go and watch RU, that looks more like RL used to do than RL does now!!!
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| Wakey were saved by the Crusaders administration , simple as , if it had still been in the rules that an ' admin ' sent you down , Wakey were dead in the water , as there is no way with an ' admin ' against them their bid would have matched Fax's
So I can understand the reaction of both the Fans and Chairman of Halifax
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| Off you go then. I bet you used to love standing on crumbling grounds with crowds averaging 4,000.
Dont let nostalgia hit you on the ar$e on the way out
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| Quote ="Dico"Off you go then. I bet you used to love standing on crumbling grounds '"
Cas and Wakefield still are?
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| Quote ="Dico"Off you go then. I bet you used to love standing on crumbling grounds with crowds averaging 4,000.
Dont let nostalgia hit you on the ar$e on the way out'"
I'm not the ' villain ' here , its the idiots that pretended that Celtic Crusaders were a viable SL club 3 years ago , thats when the damage was done
They aren't sustainable in SL , and I suspect they wont be sustainable in the Championships , although I do hope they can be saved , and if that means the RFL openly funding them , I'll take that , as long as nobody starts getting ' giddy ' again
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| Wakefield...the club that Super League just can't get rid of.
Hard luck Halifax. I do feel you've been hard done by.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Let’s face it, the only reason Wakey are in is because the Crusaders bailed at the eleventh hour.
I can just imagine the pandemonium at Red Hall yesterday, with Lewis asking Rimmer where the bids for Wakey & Fax are.
In the bin where you instructed comes the reply.
Plan B then, who’s got the best pies Nigel?
Wakey are in……….'"
It's funny because it's probably true.
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| Quote ="Richie"You would prefer a 13 team league then?'"
No, he'd prefer Halifax to be rewarded for the work they've done over the last three years and Wakefield to have their license revoked for not living up to promises made over the last 3 years.
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| Quote ="littlerich"It's the total binning of the RFL's assessment criteria that irks. Lewis even waffled on about how licensing would bring financial stability and then, in the next breath announced that a club which had gone into administration whilst holding a license were to be given another one. The RFL denied Widnes entry three years ago on that very basis. Dignity? How about a bit of integrity? The RFL should re-assess it's criteria requirements and bloody well stick to them!!!'"
You do realise that the 'no administration' criteria was ditched months ago, don't you? So no clubs were assessed against that criteria in this round of applications.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You do realise that the =#FF0000'no administration' criteria was ditched months ago, don't you? So no clubs were assessed against that criteria in this round of applications.'"
And why was that ?
And if it had not been , which current Championship club would most definatly be in SL in 2012 ?
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| Quote ="Kosh"You do realise that the 'no administration' criteria was ditched months ago, don't you? So no clubs were assessed against that criteria in this round of applications.'"
Even the VT apologists are starting to make the RFL look pathetic.
Perhaps if the RFL could choose some rules & criteria and try sticking to them for more than 12 months then they may gain a shred of credibility.
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| So it would seem that the RFL will now turn a blind eye to any club going into administration as long as you come out of it prior to the licence process. Great way to run the game.
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| I dont want this to be about Wakefield or Halifax, the RFL are quite simply pathetic.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"So it would seem that the RFL will now turn a blind eye to any club going into administration as long as you come out of it prior to the licence process. Great way to run the game.
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I agree with your sentiments, but there's a massive difference between the regime that was in charge when we went into administration and the wealthy backer that we have now.
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Apparently it was a unanimous decision to give Wakey the spot over Halifax
Quote “The independent board of directors, as advised by the executives and the agents that have been employed, have had the benefit of reviewing the submissions received, and based on the submissions received, it was a clear unanimous decision that the 14 strongest are the ones that have been granted a licence.”
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www.dropgoalrl.co.uk/interview-nigel-wood.html
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Apparently it was a unanimous decision to give Wakey the spot over Halifax
Quote “The independent board of directors, as advised by the executives and the agents that have been employed, have had the benefit of reviewing the submissions received, and based on the submissions received, it was a clear unanimous decision that the 14 strongest are the ones that have been granted a licence.”
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I agree with your sentiments, but there's a massive difference between the regime that was in charge when we went into administration and the wealthy backer that we have now.'"
Maybe, but they have only been running the club for a few months. How can the RFL truely assess how they are going to be performing in 12-18 months? That was there reasoning for not giving Widnes a licence in the last round.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"No, he'd prefer Halifax to be rewarded for the work they've done over the last three years and Wakefield to have their license revoked for not living up to promises made over the last 3 years.'"
What makes you think Fax's work made them able to bring more to SL in the next three years than Wakey?
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| Quote ="Starbug"And why was that ?'"
I've no idea. Personally I think it's a bad move, much like the removal of the 50% of turnover limit from cap spending. What price the encouragement of financial stability now?
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