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| Quote ="Katie.Smithson"Ive just ironed 2 white shirts but I dont think they are identical. I might iron a third just to make sure.'"
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| Quote ="Katie.Smithson"Ive just ironed 2 white shirts but I dont think they are identical. I might iron a third just to make sure.'"
But I bought 2 white shirts yesterday and they [iwere[/i identical. QED.  | | |
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"icon_lol.gif Shot yourself in the foot there McPhipps!'"
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| Quote ="Wheels"THAT WAS EXACTLY MY POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
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Although I am in no way trying to back up Baz/Phipps/Katie/whatever he wants to call himself now, I think comparing two plain white shirts in football (of which there are probably tons of professional clubs that have them as their home shirt in this country), there is only one that has a red V on a white shirt. It's quite distinctive, unlike a plain white shirt. You wouldn't look at an England football shirt and think it looks like a Leeds shirt because why not Tottenham? Derby? Fulham? etc. It's not distinctive enough, where as the red V is pretty much a symbol of St Helens. | | | |
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Quote ="Wellsy13"Although I am in no way trying to back up Baz/Phipps/Katie/whatever he wants to call himself now, I think comparing two plain white shirts in football (of which there are probably tons of professional clubs that have them as their home shirt in this country), there is only one that has a red V on a white shirt. It's quite distinctive, unlike a plain white shirt. You wouldn't look at an England football shirt and think it looks like a Leeds shirt because why not Tottenham? Derby? Fulham? etc. It's not distinctive enough, where as the red V is pretty much a symbol of St Helens.'"
There are England shirts that look very much like a tottenham shirt. Compare the Euro 96 England shirt to this tottenham shirt www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem.
If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on a faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention. |
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There are England shirts that look very much like a tottenham shirt. Compare the Euro 96 England shirt to this tottenham shirt www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem.
If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on a faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention. | |
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"There are England shirts that look very much like a tottenham shirt. Compare the Euro 96 England shirt to this tottenham shirt www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem.
If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on [ua faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention.[/u'"
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"There are England shirts that look very much like a tottenham shirt. Compare the Euro 96 England shirt to this tottenham shirt www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem.
If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on [ua faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention.[/u'"
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If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on a faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention.'" :1rrugl24
 
Genius!
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Well that's me off to work in a good mood.
www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem. '"
In football that may be the case, as there are literally thousands of teams at domestic level, and hundreds at international level.
In RL however, there is only a handful of each, and RL shirts tend to be a bit more distinctive than football shirts (which are more generic). You pick a design in RL and they don't tend to look like a whole bunch of club's shirts, but tend to only look like one, and so it loses identity. How many clubs traditionally have a shirt that looks like Australia's or New Zealand's for example? Or Great Britain? I think that is what people are wanting for England.
I think it's a bit unfair to compare what tend to be in the main rather generic football shirts with what have always tended to be rather distinctive and iconic RL shirts.
That said, would a white shirt with two red chevrons look too similar to a Saints shirt? Would that be distinctive enough? Or, like I said, one red chevron and one grey/charcoal chevron (the whole "St George Knight) thing?
Quote ="SmokeyTA"If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on a faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention.'"
Probably the funniest thing you've ever said on this forum
(Although, there's not a lot to pick through to be fair
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"There are England shirts that look very much like a tottenham shirt. Compare the Euro 96 England shirt to this tottenham shirt www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/sh ... 2226_1.jpg
they are pretty bloody similar.
Similarly there are a lot of Leeds shirts which looks like Derby shirts, fulham shirts, real madrid shirts.
In fact, lots and lots of shirts are similar, so we have away, or alternate shirts for just such an eventuality, because shirts are similar, nobody cares until it causes a problem. '"
In football that may be the case, as there are literally thousands of teams at domestic level, and hundreds at international level.
In RL however, there is only a handful of each, and RL shirts tend to be a bit more distinctive than football shirts (which are more generic). You pick a design in RL and they don't tend to look like a whole bunch of club's shirts, but tend to only look like one, and so it loses identity. How many clubs traditionally have a shirt that looks like Australia's or New Zealand's for example? Or Great Britain? I think that is what people are wanting for England.
I think it's a bit unfair to compare what tend to be in the main rather generic football shirts with what have always tended to be rather distinctive and iconic RL shirts.
That said, would a white shirt with two red chevrons look too similar to a Saints shirt? Would that be distinctive enough? Or, like I said, one red chevron and one grey/charcoal chevron (the whole "St George Knight) thing?
Quote ="SmokeyTA"If Phipps/Barry/Katie worry that if the England RL looked like the saints jersey there would be problem, then surely we can be patient enough with his idiocy to point him/her/it to the top left hand corner of the screen. If in that corner it says Eng, he can be sure that it means England are playing. If it says Sts then Saints are playing. If in the very unlikely circumstance they play each other, one will wear an alternate kit and they will likely tell us which team that is rather than playing a trick on a faux-aussie who is sat with his thumb up his ass watching gonzo porn and screaming loudly in the hope someone, anyone will call the police and then someone will be forced, by law to pay them some attention.'"
Probably the funniest thing you've ever said on this forum
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Why don't we have the Exiles play in Orange?'"
And have orange tracksuit tops with black hoods. | | |
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"In football that may be the case, as there are literally thousands of teams at domestic level, and hundreds at international level.
In RL however, there is only a handful of each, and RL shirts tend to be a bit more distinctive than football shirts (which are more generic).'"
Actually, something that bugs me quite a bit about RL strips is that despite the relatively small number of clubs there are loads of clashing kits. I realise there's not much we can do now about teams having similar traditional colours but I do wish they'd have had a bit more imagination at their inception. I mean, out of 14 clubs, 6 of them have a variety of red and white, while Warrington alternate their kit to a Leeds kit every other year. | | |
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Actually, something that bugs me quite a bit about RL strips is that despite the relatively small number of clubs there are loads of clashing kits. I realise there's not much we can do now about teams having similar traditional colours but I do wish they'd have had a bit more imagination at their inception. I mean, out of 14 clubs, 6 of them have a variety of red and white, while Warrington alternate their kit to a Leeds kit every other year.'"
So which SL clubs would you say have clashing kits? | | |
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"So which SL clubs would you say have clashing kits?'"
Go on I'll bite.
Wigan
Salford
Hull KR
Saints
Crusaders
Catalans
all the above play in a variety of a red and white.
Then of course Warrington and Leeds. | | |
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Wigan
Salford
Hull KR
Saints
Crusaders
Catalans
all the above play in a variety of a red and white.
Then of course Warrington and Leeds.'"
I'm not asking you to bite. I'm genuinely interested to know which shirts you consider to be a clash of colours.
I don't consider the 'red' of Wigan to clash with the red and white of Saints. Totally different styles of shirt. Totally different colours.
The Leeds / Warrington ones yes. | | |
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Go on I'll bite.
Wigan
Salford
Hull KR
Saints
Crusaders
Catalans
all the above play in a variety of a red and white.
Then of course Warrington and Leeds.'"
Crusaders are red and green.
The rest, yeah they're red and white (something I've talked about before), but they all have completely different styles. Catalans have yellow as well as Ted on the V, Salford have red as a base with white trim/or whatever they fancy, Wigan hoops, Saints V, Rovers a single red hoop. They're all distinctive whilst using similar colours. None are identical.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"I'm not asking you to bite. I'm genuinely interested to know which shirts you consider to be a clash of colours.
I don't consider the 'red' of Wigan to clash with the red and white of Saints. Totally different styles of shirt. Totally different colours.'"
Usually, but not always. This year we have barely any white, some years we have more and couldn't both play in our home kit together. Whereas Saints, Catalans and KR all have mostly white with red, and Wigan, Salford Crusaders have mostly "red", the point being that nearly half the SL have very similar traditional colours. | | |
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Crusaders are red and green.
The rest, yeah they're red and white (something I've talked about before), but they all have completely different styles. Catalans have yellow as well as Ted on the V, Salford have red as a base with white trim/or whatever they fancy, Wigan hoops, Saints V, Rovers a single red hoop. They're all distinctive whilst using similar colours. None are identical.'"
They aren't identical, no, but they do all share the same basic colour schemes and don't often stick to the same design (Saints being the exception, though even they stray from time to time). If we had a gallery of all the kits before the season started, minus badges and sponsors, we could have a right guessing game of who was supposed to be who, especially if you had Kooga designs in there. I mean, Rovers have a single red hoop, do they?
Quote You forgot to mention Hull and next year Widnes
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"They aren't identical, no, but they do all share the same basic colour schemes and don't often stick to the same design (Saints being the exception, though even they stray from time to time). If we had a gallery of all the kits before the season started, minus badges and sponsors, we could have a right guessing game of who was supposed to be who, especially if you had Kooga designs in there. I mean, Rovers have a single red hoop, do they?
True, but I'd say Bradford/Widnes before Hull/Widnes.
And why couldn't Crusaders have stuck with their black/yellow instead of introducing yet another red based kit?'"
I think 2008 was the year that over half of SL clubs had a majority white kit. Hull had mainly white (with thin black hoops) and white shorts/socks. I think Bradford, Catalans, Saints, Hull KR, Wigan, Wakefield did as well, and on top of that, I think the remaining 5 clubs had a white away kit! | | |
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"
And why couldn't Crusaders have stuck with their black/yellow instead of introducing yet another red based kit?'"
Because it's a totally seperate club.
I think it's a good move to have it closely resembling the Welsh national RL sides shirt too because the Welsh are pretty patriotic people. Throw a group of Welshies a glittery cowboy hat or 3, something red to wear with 3 feathers on it and scream 'Oggy Oggy Oggy' a few times and they will love you forever | | |
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Because it's a totally seperate club.'"
Yeah... except it isn't. Unless they've taken to uploading photos of "totally seperate (sic) clubs" on their website and passing them off as part of their own history.
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I think the move to red was more to tie in with Wrexham than with Wales. I don't like it when clubs try and resemble their country too much. They need their own identity. I'd like NZ Warriors to go back to being Auckland and playing in blue, green and white rather than trying to rip off the Kiwis. Of a 2nd club gets in from NZ, it just confuses things.
Club sides should be separate from international sides (in name and shirt style) IMO.
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Club sides should be separate from international sides (in name and shirt style) IMO.'"
The problem is, who are people from Wellington or Christchurch supposed to support if the Warriors only represent Auckland? The Warriors changed from Auckland to NZ for a reason.
If there is another RL side to come in from NZ it will likely be from Wellington which would basically split the north and south of the north island in half. | | |
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They could support one of the zonal teams, I suppose. That's not to say I don't get the point you're making, but isn't it a bit like saying Catalans should represent France because the people of Toulouse have nobody to support or Warrington should represent Cheshire for the same reasons?
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