People are really getting their wires crossed on this thread.

The Hull KR fans are correct - Dobson is still a HKR player. People are misquoting the operational rules.

Each club is allowed to register a provisional 25-man squad, as stated on B1:9 here:



rfllive.dyndns.org/~rflmedia/doc ... 0Guide.pdf - Page 144

Throughout the season - you can replace members of that 25-man squad with other people, as stated under B1:10 on Page 145:

People are really getting their wires crossed on this thread.

The Hull KR fans are correct - Dobson is still a HKR player. People are misquoting the operational rules.

Each club is allowed to register a provisional 25-man squad, as stated on B1:9 here:



rfllive.dyndns.org/~rflmedia/doc ... 0Guide.pdf - Page 144

Throughout the season - you can replace members of that 25-man squad with other people, as stated under B1:10 on Page 145:

But don't those clauses get over-ridden by the quota rules? Surely B1:10 says if a player is injured he can be replaced, which implies that Sean Long at Hull can currently be replaced by Jonathan Thurston. Except he can't as that would breach Hull's quota. The second part of that clause says clubs can apply to replace a member of the squad with a payer of a higher standard. Again, Hull could replace Jordan Turner with Greg Inglis. Except they can't as it would breach the quota rules.

As the board has to agree with the changes, the board would potentially be sanctioning a breach of the quota

But don't those clauses get over-ridden by the quota rules? Surely B1:10 says if a player is injured he can be replaced, which implies that Sean Long at Hull can currently be replaced by Jonathan Thurston. Except he can't as that would breach Hull's quota. The second part of that clause says clubs can apply to replace a member of the squad with a payer of a higher standard. Again, Hull could replace Jordan Turner with Greg Inglis. Except they can't as it would breach the quota rules.

As the board has to agree with the changes, the board would potentially be sanctioning a breach of the quota

there is a top 25, but that isnt really relevant here

the RFL have a register of all players, They are either registered with a club or as a free agent.

=#FF0000[iC1:1:1 The League shall maintain a register of Players and Free Agents ("the Register"icon_wink.gif and shall
designate whether the Players are amateurs or professionals and if the latter whether they
are Contract, Conditional Contract or Contract Expired Players or Dual Registered. The
League shall divide the Register into sub-sections which will represent each Club's list of
registered Players ("Club Registers"icon_wink.gif and Free Agents.[/i

When a player leaves a club or is de-registered they are moved to the 'free agents' list. Whether or not they are intending to re-join their club, join another one, or never play RL again, they are bound by the RFL's operation rules for 12 months from this point.

=#FF0000[iA Player shall be bound by the Operational Rules upon submission to the RFL of a correctly
completed Official Registration Form and other documents as set out below or as required
from time to time. Twelve months after a player is declared a Free Agent under the
Operational Rules he shall no longer be bound by the Operational Rules provided that he
has not completed another Official Registration Form. The Player agrees to be bound by the
Operational Rules until that date.[/i

now there are three ways a player can be removed from a pro clubs register

=#FF4000[i(c) in the case of Professional Players with a current contract registered with a Club:
(i) by mutual agreement by Club and Player to terminate the contract which has been
notified to the RFL which in the case of all players on a full time contract must be
in the form of a compromise agreement; or
(ii) in the case of a Negotiated Transfer, on the receipt by the RFL of the documents
set out in Operational Rule Section C1:2:4 above and C1:2:13 below; or
(iii) in the case of a Contract Expired Player where that Player signs for another Club
and the RFL receives the documents set out in Operational Rule C1:2:4 above and
C1:2:13 below. When a player has been removed from a Club Register he shall
remain on the RFL Register as a Free Agent unless he applies for de-registration[/i

But under all circumstances he no longer has a valid playing contract with said club. Therefore, due to him not being a contracted player, a conditional contract player, or a contract expired player, he is a free agent.

Nobody is arguing that HKA cant get rid of one aussie and replace him with another. Simply that for the time being Dobson is a free agent (due to not being on the HKA register, therefore he has to be a 'free agent') and that according to rule
=#FF4000[iC1:4:7 An "overseas Player" who is removed from a Club Register during the Season cannot then
be placed back on that Club's Register in that same Season save with the permission of the
Board.[/i

He shouldnt be able to be re-registered this season, without dispensation.

If that dispensation is forthcoming, it should be explained why.

there is a top 25, but that isnt really relevant here

the RFL have a register of all players, They are either registered with a club or as a free agent.

=#FF0000[iC1:1:1 The League shall maintain a register of Players and Free Agents ("the Register"icon_wink.gif and shall
designate whether the Players are amateurs or professionals and if the latter whether they
are Contract, Conditional Contract or Contract Expired Players or Dual Registered. The
League shall divide the Register into sub-sections which will represent each Club's list of
registered Players ("Club Registers"icon_wink.gif and Free Agents.[/i

When a player leaves a club or is de-registered they are moved to the 'free agents' list. Whether or not they are intending to re-join their club, join another one, or never play RL again, they are bound by the RFL's operation rules for 12 months from this point.

=#FF0000[iA Player shall be bound by the Operational Rules upon submission to the RFL of a correctly
completed Official Registration Form and other documents as set out below or as required
from time to time. Twelve months after a player is declared a Free Agent under the
Operational Rules he shall no longer be bound by the Operational Rules provided that he
has not completed another Official Registration Form. The Player agrees to be bound by the
Operational Rules until that date.[/i

now there are three ways a player can be removed from a pro clubs register

=#FF4000[i(c) in the case of Professional Players with a current contract registered with a Club:
(i) by mutual agreement by Club and Player to terminate the contract which has been
notified to the RFL which in the case of all players on a full time contract must be
in the form of a compromise agreement; or
(ii) in the case of a Negotiated Transfer, on the receipt by the RFL of the documents
set out in Operational Rule Section C1:2:4 above and C1:2:13 below; or
(iii) in the case of a Contract Expired Player where that Player signs for another Club
and the RFL receives the documents set out in Operational Rule C1:2:4 above and
C1:2:13 below. When a player has been removed from a Club Register he shall
remain on the RFL Register as a Free Agent unless he applies for de-registration[/i

But under all circumstances he no longer has a valid playing contract with said club. Therefore, due to him not being a contracted player, a conditional contract player, or a contract expired player, he is a free agent.

Nobody is arguing that HKA cant get rid of one aussie and replace him with another. Simply that for the time being Dobson is a free agent (due to not being on the HKA register, therefore he has to be a 'free agent') and that according to rule
=#FF4000[iC1:4:7 An "overseas Player" who is removed from a Club Register during the Season cannot then
be placed back on that Club's Register in that same Season save with the permission of the
Board.[/i

He shouldnt be able to be re-registered this season, without dispensation.

If that dispensation is forthcoming, it should be explained why.