The ground issue is irrelevant to both clubs

The RFL will base the licences application on where the club will be playing at the start of 2012.

What plans? Please tell!

We will see. By the time the decision is made, The RFL will be able to see this isnt just a franchise winning ploy. And that we are deadly serious about moving the club into the 21st century, And trying to make ourselves a bigger more succesful club.

I think the amount of money we've already forked out for planning shows we're deadly serious.

why would either team want to groundshare? the rfl have already said that one team will be relegated from sl.

if both teams were sharing a new ground ( if one existed, which neither does currently) how would this increase either teams chances, surely they would just cancel each other out.

it basically comes down to who builds a ground the soonest.

as i see it (pure opinion) wakefield have the funds (via a third party and the trust) but no planning permission as yet.

cas have planning permission but insufficient funds to build a stadium(otherwise it would be built already or well on its way)

hopefully both will come off in the long run.

to all the people who come on here saying that wakey and cas have done nothing so far.( i assume they all live in 15 bedroom mansions overlooking the sea, if not why not?) a suitable stadium costs between 10 and 20 million pounds and RL is not a wealthy sport. FACT!

They are out at the end of the season come what may.

If they are in Super League its off to Barnsley. As for dropping down then they may as well move into with Fev or Dewsbury.

And as for Castleford's ground I will believe it is happening when the first brick is put down. It was 6 years ago I moved into that area and everything around the shopping centre has sprung up apart from one thing. The stadium.

So many false starts.

This insideous licencing nonesence sets fans of 2 proud clubs up in a faux war. Fans of Cas and Trinity, who know variying but limeted of the detail of the behind the scenes machinations of stadium development , disrespecting the other for fear that their club will fall under the licencing guillotiene should their development plans achieve a reputation for being credible.

As a Trinity fan I wish Cas the very best of luck with their plans and keep my fingers crossed about our own. Lets face facts this is an arguement about who has the most credible plan. At a time, dictated by the impending licencing decision, when the need for news management is at its greatest I don't believe anyone has all the facts and few have some of them.

Until the builders get on site one might argue that this is a debate about which club has the best PR - don't we have better things to focus our energy on?

Im one of the few fans of either club who believe in a stadium share but I can't see it happening - too much oversentimentalised emotinal clap trap talked about postcodes and community identity, apparently its so important our game is prepaired to throw millions of pounds behind it. That said the geography of the 2 clubs is no different to the 2 Hull clubs or Wigan and Saints, or Wigan and Leigh and I didn't hear the clamour for ground share at the time that these clubs needed to develop.

A ground share would lead to clubs losing some of their fans - but only fans of this generation. In 20 years time fans won't care about the post code the team plays in.

I wouldn't want a share too

Nail on head with that one fella and its the next generation we should be targeting

Targeting in what way , asking 4 yr olds if they are happy to ground share ?

They have and a developer doesn't want his land, it's a bank that it belongs to apparently and considering the housing market they'd love it, if Trinity rented the land till the market picked up.

A merged club wouldnt survive 20 months never mind 20 years. Quins struggle to attract 3k in a city of millions where they are just indifferant, with a much smaller population most of which who are hostile (and the ones left not bothered about the sport) to a merged team it would stuggle to get better crowds than quins.

No team can survive without fans, and anyone who thinks the people of the 5 towns would support a wakefield team knows nothing about the area and is pretty clueless.

Clueless used in a sentence to describe Millward. Surely not!

But they don't support the existing teams either!!!!

As a percentage of population only FEV could be seen as "successful" in that regard.

EYES ON THE BOX IS WHAT MATTERS.

Forget attendances, they are now seen as secondary.

All of the supposed benefits of a groundshare are equally valid for other RL clubs. At the beginning of Superleague it was proposed that Warrington & Widnes merge to form a Cheshire club, and the Hull teams were also to merge to become a single entity. At this very moment Saints & Widnes are already sharing- why isn't anyone arguing for this arrangement to become permanent?
I'll tell you why, because a groundshare is fine as long as its not your club involved, right?
Bunch of Nimbys on this forum.

Really?

Fevs average home attendance: 1,712
Fevs population: 14,175
Percentage of population: 12.08%

Cas's average home attendance: 6,616
Cas's population: 37,525
Percentage of population: 17.63%

*source 2001 Census*

I'm not too great at maths, but if Fev "could be seen as "successful" in that regard" then what does that make Cas?
I'll leave you to work out the percentages for other big town/city clubs percentages such as Salford, Warrington, St Helens, Bradford- but at least look at the populations of the towns before you make silly statements.

Anyway....

EYES ON THE BOX IS WHAT MATTERS.

Forget attendances, they are now seen as secondary.

I'll tell you why. It's because Saints are not struggling for a new stadium. It's on its way.

I'm not sure why you're bringing us in to it anyway. It's not like Widnes are the shining beacon of super league era privelige.

Some teams have had a lot of breaks in this era and have got to start delivering, you can leave us out of any bitterness ta because they are breaks many clubs never got.

38% of people are living in the real world
62% think wallace and gromit are real



Wakefield fans.......I feel for you, but your owners/board have bolted you on for favourite to be jetisoned status.....you and cas should have built a joint stadium 15 years ago...not a merger....ever, but a stadium.......for fuxake.

Exactly. Do your crying and whingeing now but you've been messing around for ten years, its just too late.
IMO you both dont have bricks up and should both go

Andrew Glover confirmed that Wakefield are still interested www.dropgoalrl.co.uk/glover-says ... round.html

Andrew Glover confirmed that Wakefield are still interested www.dropgoalrl.co.uk/glover-says ... round.html

Castleford Wildcats 2015

Gets my vote, then Wakefield can go back to being Wakefield Trinity.

"Wakefield’s new chairman Andrew Glover admits a ground-share with arch rivals Castleford Tigers [size=150remains an option [/sizefor the Wildcats as they look to secure a new Engage Super League licence"

I would think that 'Option' lies solely with the Cas board and hopefully fans as to whether it is open or not...

The thing is the actual statement cites Newmarket as the possible shared venue.

So the wakefield chairman clearly agrees with exactly what I said earlier in this thread and the reasons I gave. It makes sense from a business point of view for them to groundshare, this is why it's the best option. It doesn't fully suit Wakey but they are not in a position to moan about this things. Terrific for Cas meaning more income.

Wakey will sell their own ground and this could probably go towards their rent and other things they need to pay off.

I would seriously look forward to the derby games in this new stadium.