Given the NRL runs at zero margins at the moment and is spending 60% of its income (income = $150mill) on stuff other than club grants I doubt it very much. Hopefully more funding will go to jnr and amateur RL not less, hopefully money will be set aside in a future fund, hopefully some money will be spent promoting the game better and developing the pacific nations. Don't forget the ARLIC will be responsible for the whole game, not just the NRL.

A more conservative (realistic?) amount would be an income of $200mill (made up of $160mill TV, $10mill internet/other rights, $30mill in other income/savings)

18 clubs x$4.5mill = $81mill
Running of NRL = $90mill
Funding for jnr/amateur RL = $24mill
Future fund = $5mill

the current salary cap is $4.25 million with the tv grant $500,000 less

clubs want the grant and the sc the same to lessen losses

players wont put up with a $4.25 million cap when the tv deal goes up even $80 million plus the savings from the ic

assuming $100 million in new revenues which is conservative -

1. $40 million for nrl running costs, which covers juniors and everything else
2. $8.5 million - 2 new clubs
3. $52 million extra money to nrl clubs for higher salary cap - almost $3 million more per club. eliminating the current shortfall means the salary cap goes up around $2.5 million to nearly $7 million

player wages are going up a lot in 12 months, the game wont allow its stars to go elsewhere when there is money to keep them

how do you think the NRL is going to save $60million in running costs?
It currently spends $100million on running costs inc $8million to ARL. I'm intrigued to know how you think they can cut this running cost bill by 60% and still give more money to jnr and amateur RL?

The Crushers despite having a descent junior program had a massive debt and 'Tosser' was bailing them out just prior to the SL War - why I think they would have gone bust.

Manly and Norths as I explained earlier wouldn't have been forced to merge later on and would still be powerhouses of the comp.Norths were one of the most watched teams in the '90s (rating better then the Broncos) and Manly hstill had a bucke load of cash.

Cronulla and the Bulldogs might also have gone bust as well, if you guy's know the story Arko was good friends with the guy that ran the Bulldogs, 'Bullfrog' Moore and he turned rat on the ARL. After that Arko never talked to Bullfrog ever again and only turned up to his funeral(Often wonder why Manly and Canterbury aren't now considered grudge matches).
When Manly got the licence in 2002 Cronulla was the only team against granting them re admittance back into the comp

what I have been told about you seems to be right dally messenger

you don't know much about rl or australia.

you think Campbelltown is not in Sydney?!

im assuming you have never been to australia because campbelltown is a suburb of sydney. its in the south west of the city and its where wests tigers play some of their home games. they have played there since they were formed. there used to be a side called the western suburbs magpies -there still is but not a top flight side anymore- who used to play at a place called lidcombe (thats in sydney too) and they used to play at campbelltown too. its definately in sydney

If it was up to me, I would have Cronulla moved Adelaide for half the games, or maybe full time

Adelaide Sharks anyone?

i was at campbelltown 2 weeks ago

its amusing you spend your time away from the boards talking about me.

14 posts and you already know lots about me?




you are a twit BM

but his right, how do you not consider campbelltown a part of sydney?

Cause it's actually not, either is Parramatta.

They are cities in their own right, but they get jumbled into Sydney's suburbs as a whole.

lol at suburban councils bigging themselves up as cities, same here in perth, I live in the "city" of Stirling, which in reality is just a collection of suburbs of Perth.

200 years ago, Parramatta was a long way away from Sydney itself, the population has grown and we can go long distances in minutes instead of hours or days now.

People automatically just assume these places are Sydney, it doesn't help either that the media and more or less everything else does the same thing.

Google Parramatta and you'll see that it is actually another city.

I understand what you are saying about some suburbs thinking bigger, but that isn't the case with Parramatta and Cambletown.

I think Dally is right about Penrith too, you often here them mentions being at the foot of the blue mountains. (last time I looked, there were no mountains in Sydney)

damn, just reread that, my spelling was pathetic.

no different to Fremantle 100 years ago but now it is accepted it is just another Perth metro suburb. To suggest Parramatta or Campbelltown are not "in" Sydney is a furphy.

They are their own cities whether you like it, accept it, or not.

haha, whatever, still I guess it helps with justifying 10 teams across a number of "Sydney" cities

3 cities outside Sydney.
Hey, maybe they can be you clubs huh?

You know, the kicking out and merging you said will happen.

jb seriously, youve contributed nothing to the nrl for 10 years, talked up AFL every chance youve gotten

we all dont mind poking fun of trolls but you are pushing it

sydney is the place rl is strongest anywhere on earth

Quote ="dally messenger" sydney is the place rl is strongest anywhere on earth'" which says what about the state of RL? www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sy ... 1115683624 come on Dally tell us another good 'un, your Balmain and Cambelltown last two have been crackers, I need a laugh post New Years blues

Quote ="dally messenger" sydney is the place rl is strongest anywhere on earth'" which says what about the state of RL? www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sy ... 1115683624 come on Dally tell us another good 'un, your Balmain and Cambelltown last two have been crackers, I need a laugh post New Years blues

Quote ="JB Down Under"which says what about the state of RL? www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sy ... 1115683624 come on Dally tell us another good 'un, your Balmain and Cambelltown last two have been crackers, I need a laugh post New Years blues '" jb stop trolling you are ignorant of the state of rl in australia, especially in sydney ive been to over 500 games in australia so i know what im talking about when perth get a team you can get a season ticket and well listen to your views on that club but when it comes to sydney it would help you to listen to me as ive been attending sydney rl grounds since 1982 rl isnt even close to potential in sydney

Quote ="JB Down Under"which says what about the state of RL? www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sy ... 1115683624 come on Dally tell us another good 'un, your Balmain and Cambelltown last two have been crackers, I need a laugh post New Years blues '" jb stop trolling you are ignorant of the state of rl in australia, especially in sydney ive been to over 500 games in australia so i know what im talking about when perth get a team you can get a season ticket and well listen to your views on that club but when it comes to sydney it would help you to listen to me as ive been attending sydney rl grounds since 1982 rl isnt even close to potential in sydney

jb, why are you quoting an article from 2008?

Balmain ceased to exist in 1996
Auckland and NQ were not RL heartlands prior to getting NRL teams
The "bomb" was an Australian invention after Gibson saw hail mary american football passes
Cambelltown isn't in Sydney

just a few of the dally's of 2010. And I'm ignorant?

yeah pretty much

you could learn a lot from the many people on here from sydney who go to games

seriously you posted a link from 2008 to say sydney clubs were struggling

its now 2011, how many sydney clubs have failed since then?

JB, prove that they aren't cities.

It's easy to post BS without backing it up while taking cheap shots at others, so do the right thing and prove Dally and myself wrong.

We've had you, (a plastic Aussie) living in a city a couple of thousand kms away telling us along with a kiwi.

Were are the other Aussies here backing you up?

never said they weren't "cities". I argued the definition of a city in Australia is somewhat different and based on an administrative council rather than a seperate geographical location, which is how most of Europe and North America would describe a city. I would contest Dally's claim that they are not "in" Sydney. You seriously trying to tell me if you asked ANYONE in Australia where Parramatta was they wouldn't say "in" Sydney?



In terms of the 2008 article, I'm just stating what those with more knowledge than you or I have said. Whilst pokie funding continues to fall the good thing is that generally crowds in Sydney are on the rise. Memberships may yet save clubs, we can but hope.

ps I look forward to the Dallyisms of 2011, they certianly kept everyone on here amused during 2010, even if it does paint a poor picture of my fellow Australian countrymen!

2008 article?