Whatuira is a very, very good centre, Bridge played for England last year, Gleeson didn't. I love this suggestion that players only exist when they move to SL, Delaney's been playing in the NRL didn't you know?



That's a fair enough comment, I don't think it will be Wigan though.

Don't feed the troll.

He got injured early, came back when McIlorum got hurt despite not being fully fit, went off again because he couldnt play fully. Then he came back on, had a stormer and got hurt again.

Is that because Bridge is a better player than Gleeson or a certain coach who obviously had something against Gleeson?

Gleeson > Bridge

Gleeson was > Bridge, times change.

Lee Mossop signs a new 5 year deal: www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 631&type=1 Quote Wigan Warriors are delighted to confirm that 21 year old Second Row Forward, Lee Mossop, has signed a new 5-Year Contract with the Club including a revision of his current Contract which will keep him as a Warriors player until November 2014.'"

Lee Mossop signs a new 5 year deal: www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 631&type=1 Quote Wigan Warriors are delighted to confirm that 21 year old Second Row Forward, Lee Mossop, has signed a new 5-Year Contract with the Club including a revision of his current Contract which will keep him as a Warriors player until November 2014.'"

Well played Wigan.
It would be nice to see more English players in the NRL but we don't want an exodus.

And is still > Bridge.

Gleeson has been average for some time, hence not getting picked for England and Warrington getting rid of him to sign Atkins. Indeed Gleeson was very lucky to be around at a time when there wasnt any English centres to choose from. It was a very good bit of business by Warrington, replacing one has been with an up and coming young player with bags of potential. I know many Wigan fans who have been very disappointed by Gleeson and say he has been fairly average since he was signed.

Carmont although good in attack is woeful in defence. He is a fairly average import which has been typical of the English game over the last couple of decades. Newcastle fans couldnt wait for him to leave as he simply wasnt good enough for them. He is not a patch on some of the top centres to play in Super League and shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as someone like Gidley.

I thought they got rid of him to sign Mathers?

Very poor attempt at trolling there.

D- must try harder

I like Carmont, he's been a very astute purchase - granted he's no Gidley or Lyon, but then again he's not on Gidley/Lyon money.

Been one of our best signings for a while. Brought us some stability in the centres that we hadn't had for a while.

Agreed. If you stood Carmont and Gidley side by side and got someone (not familiar with the British game) and showed them player highlights from their time spent in SL, then informed them that one is on *£150k a Season and one is on *£40k a season - would the person tell who was on the most salary? Possibly,..... probably even. But I bet they would say there wasn't three/four times more quality consistent with the difference in money.

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Ah the retort of someone with no argument. I am not trolling at all. Many Wigan fans admit as much about Gleeson. Why do you think that Warrington were so keen to get rid? Carmont is very overated and is good in attack and poor defence. He is far from being a good all round centre and cant be considered world class as some Wigan fans make out. Again many Wigan fans agree so that is hardly trolling.

So you reckon Carmont is only on 40k?



Only a Wigan fan would try and compare Gidley and Carmont as players. There simply is no comparison, Gidley wins hands down in every department.

Also there is no way that Gidley is on nearly 4 times what Carmont is. Carmont has had his contract renewed/renegotiated a couple of times since he came. If that is the case and he is still only on 40k then he should get a new agent. He may have been fairly cheap when he came (still would have been far more than 40k though!) but he would still have been on decent enough money seeing as many young fringe first teamers get more than 40k. It also certainly does not mean that he is still cheap now. Wigan fans always use this value for money argument when talking about him but it simply does not exist now. If you are plucking figures out of thin air if he was now on 100k+ a year he would hardly still be good value for money, he would simply be getting the going rate.

Dont forget Wigan fans have been telling everyone how good he is and that loads of clubs wanted to sign him when his contract was running out but now you are saying he stayed for 40k. This means that either no clubs wanted him, they didnt want him enough to pay much more than 40k or he is on far more than Wigan fans try and make out. So which one is it?

Carmont came over to the UK on much less than 40K per season. He had a "slightly" improved contract in 2010 (12 months, with a further year as an option in Wigan's favour). I think Wigan may release in 2011 and recruit as there's a lot of salary coming off contract in November - Fielden for one.

Carmont is NOWHERE near 100k a season. Half it and you're somewhere near.

You are talking rubbish and I really cant see how you can believe what you are writing.

On the one hand you are trying to argue that he is one of the best centres in Super League and is so good that most clubs in Super League would take him. However on the other you are arguing that he firstly got released early from his contract at Newcastle, uprooted his family and took the risk of traveling across the world for much less than 40k (and thus gets paid about the same as a good academy prospect). Not just that he gets his initial contract improved as he is a success, gets a further contract extension last year (which will be his last big pay day in the game) and is still only on about 50k which is less than the Super League average wage. This is despite being so good that, according to Wigan fans last seaso,n he would walk into most teams in Super League and that other Super League teams and French RU wanted to sign him.

Either he is not as good as you think and no one else wanted him or he is getting paid far more than you think. You cant have it both ways.

Oh and one more thing to add to the argument.
How many missed tackles did Carmont make V Wire? 5? 6? Up there with the best of dreadful defensive performances, who was he up against that day? None other than Chris Bridge who had him in his pocket.

As did Shenton a couple of weeks ago. He has faced 2 decent centres this season and has been destroyed by both. He really is world class though and only on 50k a year

Georgie must be doing something right,if he wasn't Maguire wouldn't have him in the side.(the side thats top of the table)

Don't get me wrong, decent centre and for the money (probably a bit more than 40k) a cracking signing. In SLs top 5 centres? No chance.

well done wigan

give maguire a contract upgrade before an nrl clubs nabs him

the sleeping giant is emerging