well if CC have to move every 5 years to survive ill live with it.

While I agree with the sentiment , ' survival ' isn't what SL is about

That's what the lower leagues would be happy with , but the ' premier ' competition requires more IMO

Was that with Roy Lester Starburg?

What happened to Roy?

if survivial is the best we can get for an expansion team i can live with it provided tge expansion team is supporting other developments in the area like junior production

I am surprised the Crusaders have struggled as I heard they had an excellent business plan.

Train to Chester then straight to Wrexham,shouldnt take you 1 hour 15 minutes.

Changeover time innit

Please give details of the clubs with the long history that the R.F.L/S.L have saved dally

Yes it was , he lives in Cheshire I think , he did a Q and A session at Hilton Park a couple of years back , very funny

Met him many times when I was involved and he was always great fun.

dumb question.

Starburg - spoke to our former coach & apparently Roy still lives in the area & went to Parry Gordons funeral the other week.

Thanks that just brought back a memory of looking out for Leigh 'B' team's result in the paper. Didn't they all used to travel down to London together on the same day of the game?

Yes home games were ' away ' and away games closer to ' home '

Fulham RLFC based in Lowton , Leigh

Im sure you would have argued if i had said that.

In fact im sure you have when i have said that

them all.

Which bit ? the SL bit or the lower league bit ?

both

Well I'd have thought the ' premier ' tier of a sport is the one that should perform the best and attempt to be the best , the other levels should also attempt to do the same , but it is more difficult for them given they would struggle to attract the same profile

If I have somehow expessed the opposite I cannot remember doing so

So you wouldnt for instance be opposed to a statement saying

If (for example) Wakefield cant move on to competing for trophies regularly, spending the same as everyone else and truly looking to actually win trophies then the elite isnt for them? That simply being in the league with an below average fanbase, below average facilities for players nd fans, average squad and average youth development isnt good enough and if they dont improve then they should be dropped?

should then replace them

We can call it ' Licencing or Franchising '

so im guessing you were just being contrary previously then.

can remain solvent and continue to play RL , I will personally be happy in the short term . long term , who knows , I might get bored and stop watching , I might decide that I'd rather sit by the canal trying to catch a fish 3/4 inches long is more interesting than attending a RL match

hmmm.. let me see South Wales has not turned out in numbers like the south of France for Super League Expansion??? who would have guessed that... however much the "northern" game wants & wishes to expand the core & loyal i.e. fan who will pay to see... is located in the North of this Isle. What if Leigh/Featherstone/Widnes or Halifax has been given the same funding & better Visa advice? Crowds better than 4k per home game would have been acheived, simply by by better away support alone, expand yes but small steps, if Wrexham had been the first step then yes a NL1 team 2 years ago would have been a good step.... but now to save face it is regression with Leigh and Widnes within spitting distance its laughable. Maybe a North Wales Wrexham "crusaders" will work in 2/3 time but it may have slowed or severed rugby league heartland (teams) to a slow beat in the process. We all want the game to expand but don't cut off the roots or the tree won't grow....