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| This is a joke. The worst party are the people protesting against the original protesters, all they are doing is bringing attention to the original group. All I can see is lots of ed up rugby fans walking along Picadilly taking the mick out of both sides.
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| It will kick off, and will probably be unreported.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Well we go to the MCR every year with all the rugby lads from the team I play for to have a good drink, watch the game and then have a drink afterwards, theres about 30 of us going and no EDL or march will be stopping us from entering the city centre before or after the game
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We talked about this the other day. Could you imagine about 30 of these wits bumping into, for example, a NWC side out on the ? It's not as though a load of RL lads are gonna be bothered by a load of chavs is it?
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| How did the ENGLISH Defence League demo go down in Wales, then?
Geographical issues here, surely?
(or don't they know Wales is not in England?)
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| Quote ="Mick W."(or don't they know Wales is not in England?)'"
Probably not, to be honest...
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| Quote ="Mick W."How did the ENGLISH Defence League demo go down in Wales, then?
Geographical issues here, surely?
(or don't they know Wales is not in England?)'"
After doing a little research (ok, I Googled it ), it was in support of the Welsh Defence League.
No way any trouble will go unreported though, it will be all over the front pages tomorrow. And even if there isn't any trouble, the gutter press will probably just end up paying people to scrap, as they have at England games abroad in the past.
(And I say this as someone who is firmly in the middle of the road and couldn't really give a jot either way; left and right are just as bad as each other).
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| Oxford Road/St James' Square before Old Trafford for me, theres no way those s and RL fans should mix.
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| If United had been playing at home do you think the police would have allowed the protest?
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"If United had been playing at home do you think the police would have allowed the protest?'"
If United had been at home could you imagine even the knuckle-draggers of the EDL contemplating such a protest?
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| There doing one when Leeds united at at home so what difference would it make if Man u would of been at home
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| Quote ="danny dyer 2000"There doing one when Leeds united at at home so what difference would it make if Man u would of been at home
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Leeds fans - throwing darts
Man Utd fans - eating prawn sandwiches
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| According to radio reports, it is kicking off in Piccadilly Square.
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| It's a lawful legitimate assembly of protesters. It happens in a democracy, get over it and stop moaning!
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| Quote ="deeHell"It's a lawful legitimate assembly of protesters. It happens in a democracy, get over it and stop moaning!'" No it isn't, it's a bunch of racist s kicking off.
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"No it isn't, it's a bunch of racist s kicking off.'"
It's still a lawful legitimate protest, like it or not. It's how it's done in a democracy. If we outlawed these protest we would not really be a democracy.
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| Could be good press
"RL FANS SAY NO TO RACISM (and punch some racist fricks to prove it!)"
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| Quote ="deeHell"It's still a lawful legitimate protest, like it or not. It's how it's done in a democracy. If we outlawed these protest we would not really be a democracy.'" I agree it's lawful, as for legitimate, thats open to debate.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Could be good press
"RL FANS SAY NO TO RACISM (and punch some racist fricks to prove it!)"'" 13 EDL members against 13 players from any NWC league side, i'd buy a ticket for that!
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| I don't see all the fuss, the EDL say that they are a multi racial group that oppose radical islamification of the country. If there multi racial and oppose racism I can't see how they can be classed as racist. From what I understand is that their main grievance was against radical Muslims abusing our troops home coming.
Most of the trouble makers seen to come from the counter demonstrators. It was certainly them rioting outside that mosque in London the other week.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6869327.ece
Wonder who the 'guest speaker' is
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| Quote ="deeHell"I don't see all the fuss, the EDL say that they are a multi racial group that oppose radical islamification of the country. If there multi racial and oppose racism I can't see how they can be classed as racist. From what I understand is that their main grievance was against radical Muslims abusing our troops home coming.
Most of the trouble makers seen to come from the counter demonstrators. It was certainly them rioting outside that mosque in London the other week.'"
i don't have any time for the student leftys but the edl are at best a bunch of football hoolies with connections with several casual firms and several with criminal convictions. if thats all we got to represent english culture then im glad im in wales.
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| Quote ="jannerboyuk"i don't have any time for the student leftys but the edl are at best a bunch of football hoolies with connections with several casual firms and several with criminal convictions. if thats all we got to represent english culture then im glad im in wales.'"
I don't think they represent anyone but themselves. But I do believe they have a right to protest, them or anyone. Thats what makes us a democracy.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I don't think they represent anyone but themselves. But I do believe they have a right to protest, them or anyone. Thats what makes us a democracy.'"
er no it isnt. the right to elect our legislators is what make us a representative democracy. no-one has the absolute right to gather in large numbers in the street, its entirely and always has been on sufferance of the authorities.
the fact is that the edl is a gang of violent criminals who are determined to stir up trouble. the problem is that there is plenty of fuel for the fire in this country.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I don't think they represent anyone but themselves. But I do believe they have a right to protest, them or anyone. Thats what makes us a democracy.'" A democracy is not the right to close off a whole city centre or to attempt to stir up racial tention in a very multi-cultural city.
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