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| Quote ="adam9641"Nor has the club.'"
As I said before, don't put any money on that...
Quote ="adam9641"They have told a few players that they can speak to others clubs. It's a complete diff thing all together'"
As we haven't reached the date where players can talk to other clubs about next season I wouldn't take much notice of that too
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| The club have told a fe wplayers that they can speak to other clubs as they wish.
I will bank all my money on it, believe what you want. If you have been told diff then fair enough
Quite a few clubs have asked about some of our players which is always a good sign.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Naming rights was always going to be drawn at that time and no that was not the deal. The deal was the name picked out of the hat got the rights to the ground name, which will still be known as BV.
Confident we will get a new ground, as anything only time will tell.
A few players have been told they can look for other clubs but Kear has not offered any player to any club.
Just live in a fantasy world all your life.
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You are wrong about your own club When the naming rights scheme was announced they said they would announce it before the start of the season. Do check the press releases at the time.
Confidence without substance is empty stupidity. take a look at stadium building projects at the stage of yours with no specific money guarenteed. You are miles away and the SL clock is ticking.
Not bothered about Kear. The club have offered players to leave this season. You pretend they have not.
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| Quote ="adam9641"The club have told a fe wplayers that they can speak to other clubs as they wish.
I will bank all my money on it, believe what you want. If you have been told diff then fair enough
Quite a few clubs have asked about some of our players which is always a good sign.'"
As BG says the timing is all wrong.
Wakey want transfer fees - because they need the money
Wakey want players to go now - to cut costs asap.
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| Is anyone on here claiming to know what is going on at Wakey willing to tell us how they know?
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| Quote ="Neggy"Is anyone on here claiming to know what is going on at Wakey willing to tell us how they know?'"
Several different sources really.
1. The clubs shareholder meeting they announced that the ground had been sold in 2007 and of the £1.7million there was £0.5million remaining. This means they have spent £1.2million over 2 years - this would put them in a dire position if there is no restrictions on spending - the biggest cost of which is staff wages.
2. Brough was offered to the Giants and every other superleague club. Sculthorpe was offered to Prem1 clubs too. Since there are several sources on here independently saying the same thing it would suggest it is true.
3. Gates are obvious to measure. But with them predicting more fans this season on the back of their CC semi appearance surely they would have ordered MORE stock for the club shop therefore them running out of mediums suggests they ordered less than last year even in the face of their own estimates of more fans through the turnstiles.
4. Strong rumours out of Bradford that they are taking on Rooney next year and possibly Atkins.
5. RLW had comment that Drew and Petersen were talking to Lawyers and this was mentioned albeit a denail by Ted earlier this week.
6. As mentioned by the OP the statement from Keer was pretty self explanatory.
7. Any share issue is to raise capital. Traditionally they are offered on the quiet to avoid rumours - issuing of new shares devalues the existing ones and therefore annoys shareholder. This issue is in the public domain - as is the £50,000 stadium sponsorship which s due to be announced on before the season but never was.
It has been mentioned above that I have an agenda here - but all I have done is collate the facts that are out there - read into them what you will.
Neggy - if you are interested you can request a detailed submitted accounts from Companieshouse.gov and you should be able to see the balance sheet figures on the stadium sale.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Several different sources really.
1. The clubs shareholder meeting they announced that the ground had been sold in 2007 and of the £1.7million there was £0.5million remaining. This means they have spent £1.2million over 2 years - this would put them in a dire position if there is no restrictions on spending - the biggest cost of which is staff wages.
2. Brough was offered to the Giants and every other superleague club. Sculthorpe was offered to Prem1 clubs too. Since there are several sources on here independently saying the same thing it would suggest it is true.
3. Gates are obvious to measure. But with them predicting more fans this season on the back of their CC semi appearance surely they would have ordered MORE stock for the club shop therefore them running out of mediums suggests they ordered less than last year even in the face of their own estimates of more fans through the turnstiles.
4. Strong rumours out of Bradford that they are taking on Rooney next year and possibly Atkins.
5. RLW had comment that Drew and Petersen were talking to Lawyers and this was mentioned albeit a denail by Ted earlier this week.
6. As mentioned by the OP the statement from Keer was pretty self explanatory.
7. Any share issue is to raise capital. Traditionally they are offered on the quiet to avoid rumours - issuing of new shares devalues the existing ones and therefore annoys shareholder. This issue is in the public domain - as is the £50,000 stadium sponsorship which s due to be announced on before the season but never was.
It has been mentioned above that I have an agenda here - but all I have done is collate the facts that are out there - read into them what you will.
Neggy - if you are interested you can request a detailed submitted accounts from Companieshouse.gov and you should be able to see the balance sheet figures on the stadium sale.'"
Cheers. Though it was mainly the stuff about the players being offered to other clubs that I was interested in. Certainly wouldn't be the first time we have fooked up big style but if true it could well be the last...
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| Quote ="adam9641"Naming rights was always going to be drawn at that time and no that was not the deal. The deal was the name picked out of the hat got the rights to the ground name, which will still be known as BV.'"
I'm confused....judging by your post, Belle Vue is still called Belle Vue and not the Hearwell Direct Stadium?
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"You are wrong about your own club
When the naming rights scheme was announced they said they would announce it before the start of the season. Do check the press releases at the time.
Confidence without substance is empty stupidity. take a look at stadium building projects at the stage of yours with no specific money guarenteed. You are miles away and the SL clock is ticking.
Not bothered about Kear. The club have offered players to leave this season. You pretend they have not.
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There is such a thing as change.
And they were on about doing it for the stadium at thornes park but they that fell through.
The club have not, you know jack all.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I'm confused....judging by your post, Belle Vue is still called Belle Vue and not the Hearwell Direct Stadium?'"
Do you really think us fans will call it Hearwell?
Same when it was ASS it was still called BV
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| Quote ="Wadski"Several different sources really.
1. The clubs shareholder meeting they announced that the ground had been sold in 2007 and of the £1.7million there was £0.5million remaining. This means they have spent £1.2million over 2 years - this would put them in a dire position if there is no restrictions on spending - the biggest cost of which is staff wages.
2. Brough was offered to the Giants and every other superleague club. Sculthorpe was offered to Prem1 clubs too. Since there are several sources on here independently saying the same thing it would suggest it is true.
3. Gates are obvious to measure. But with them predicting more fans this season on the back of their CC semi appearance surely they would have ordered MORE stock for the club shop therefore them running out of mediums suggests they ordered less than last year even in the face of their own estimates of more fans through the turnstiles.
4. Strong rumours out of Bradford that they are taking on Rooney next year and possibly Atkins.
5. RLW had comment that Drew and Petersen were talking to Lawyers and this was mentioned albeit a denail by Ted earlier this week.
6. As mentioned by the OP the statement from Keer was pretty self explanatory.
7. Any share issue is to raise capital. Traditionally they are offered on the quiet to avoid rumours - issuing of new shares devalues the existing ones and therefore annoys shareholder. This issue is in the public domain - as is the £50,000 stadium sponsorship which s due to be announced on before the season but never was.
It has been mentioned above that I have an agenda here - but all I have done is collate the facts that are out there - read into them what you will.
Neggy - if you are interested you can request a detailed submitted accounts from Companieshouse.gov and you should be able to see the balance sheet figures on the stadium sale.'"
Rumours rumours and more rumours
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| Quote ="adam9641"Rumours rumours and more rumours'"
The are not rumours. Many are announced by your own club. Others from reputable sources with no vested interest. Others your club will not admit but does not directly deny.
For eg Richardson and Kear have been talking to the press. Have either of them denied catagorically that players have been offered for release this season - because that is what has been stated in the rugby league press.
You are in denial. Your choice.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"The are not rumours. Many are announced by your own club. Others from reputable sources with no vested interest. Others your club will not admit but does not directly deny.
For eg Richardson and Kear have been talking to the press. Have either of them denied catagorically that players have been offered for release this season - because that is what has been stated in the rugby league press.
You are in denial. Your choice.'"
They have come out and said the rumours are load of rbbish, but there is too many at the moment to comment on each. I don't want them to comment on each as it would get boring.
It's up to you what you think but its not a new thing you and Hudds lot talking negative crap about Wakey
Any way this is not going any where we all just seem to repeat ourselfs.
I take it you will not be on forum for few week when you lose your cup final tomoz?
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| Quote ="adam9641"They have come out and said the rumours are load of rbbish, but there is too many at the moment to comment on each. I don't want them to comment on each as it would get boring.
It's up to you what you think but its not a new thing you and Hudds lot talking negative crap about Wakey
Any way this is not going any where we all just seem to repeat ourselfs.
I take it you will not be on forum for few week when you lose your cup final tomoz?
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No they have not. They have not directly denied players being offered. Even when being interviewed on the subject of players
You are clearly incapable of understanding info your own club releases. You seem to think that is rumour.That allows you to delude yourself.
We have a cup game on the 31st thanks.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Out of intrest what is your average crowd this year?'"
Out of interest whats the average cas v wakey score this season?
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"No they have not. They have not directly denied players being offered. Even when being interviewed on the subject of players
You are clearly incapable of understanding info your own club releases. You seem to think that is rumour.That allows you to delude yourself.
We have a cup game on the 31st thanks.
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They have not been asked if they have offered any players.
Most of what he said is complete trash which he has got off forum or out of his dream.
You seem more intrested in Wakey than Hudds these days.
Cup game yeah! But not cup final.
"Belle Vue's your Wembley"
Oh sorry I mean
"Hearwell is your Wembley"
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| Quote ="Wadski"Several different sources really.
1. The clubs shareholder meeting they announced that the ground had been sold in 2007 and of the £1.7million there was £0.5million remaining. This means they have spent £1.2million over 2 years - this would put them in a dire position if there is no restrictions on spending - the biggest cost of which is staff wages.
2. Brough was offered to the Giants and every other superleague club. Sculthorpe was offered to Prem1 clubs too. Since there are several sources on here independently saying the same thing it would suggest it is true.
3. Gates are obvious to measure. But with them predicting more fans this season on the back of their CC semi appearance surely they would have ordered MORE stock for the club shop therefore them running out of mediums suggests they ordered less than last year even in the face of their own estimates of more fans through the turnstiles.
4. Strong rumours out of Bradford that they are taking on Rooney next year and possibly Atkins.
5. RLW had comment that Drew and Petersen were talking to Lawyers and this was mentioned albeit a denail by Ted earlier this week.
6. As mentioned by the OP the statement from Keer was pretty self explanatory.
7. Any share issue is to raise capital. Traditionally they are offered on the quiet to avoid rumours - issuing of new shares devalues the existing ones and therefore annoys shareholder. This issue is in the public domain - as is the £50,000 stadium sponsorship which s due to be announced on before the season but never was.
It has been mentioned above that I have an agenda here - but all I have done is collate the facts that are out there - read into them what you will.
Neggy - if you are interested you can request a detailed submitted accounts from Companieshouse.gov and you should be able to see the balance sheet figures on the stadium sale.'"
An excellent summary.
from the sale at the end of 2007 the money has gone from £1.7M to 0.5M. That is £1.2M down in 17 months and includes a season where they reached a CC semi!
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| Quote ="adam9641"They have not been asked if they have offered any players.
Most of what he said is complete trash which he has got off forum or out of his dream.
You seem more intrested in Wakey than Hudds these days.
Cup game yeah! But not cup final.
"Belle Vue's your Wembley"
Oh sorry I mean
"Hearwell is your Wembley"'"
Another incoherent sentence. presumably it makes sense to you.
You may think your dump is wembley. I do not.
Do you want to address the specific financial info our do you want to bury your head in the sand?
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Another incoherent sentence. presumably it makes sense to you.
You may think your dump is wembley. I do not.
Do you want to address the specific financial info our do you want to bury your head in the sand?'"
Some of the finance is correct as I said but the bit about players is load of crap.
Yes we know BV is a dump, so nothing new to us there!
Remind me who has finished bottom before and should have been relegated?
"You were saved by the Galpharm!!"
Just live in your little sad world of "everything about Wakey is crap" and "Everything about Hudds is great" Could not be more wrong but Do I give a fu[ick[/i?
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| Adam he is just playing with you don't raise to it! He clearly doesn't like Wakefield
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Adam he is just playing with you don't raise to it! He clearly doesn't like Wakefield'"
..................and is currently thanking his lucky stars that Ken Davy is still fighting fit.
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| To be fair, if Wakey are paying a plantpot like Sculthorpe £1600 per week they must surely be paying the good players a hell of a lot more so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were in Scully Street!! (Do you like what I did there? )
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| Quote ="adam9641"Some of the finance is correct as I said but the bit about players is load of crap.
Yes we know BV is a dump, so nothing new to us there!
Remind me who has finished bottom before and should have been relegated?
"You were saved by the Galpharm!!"
Just live in your little sad world of "everything about Wakey is crap" and "Everything about Hudds is great" Could not be more wrong but Do I give a fu[ick[/i?
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A phrase like that sums you up.
Once again you advertise your ignorance re RL. Once again facts will never get in the way of your prejudice. The RFL rules - voted for by wakey - said a team wanting to be promoted had to reach certain criteria. Teams like Hunslet and Dewsbury were way off. The stadium had nothing to do with it - that is the myth peddled by the ignorant.
You have enough trouble figuring out your own thoughts. Do not tell me what i think. there is much that can improve at the Giants. this does not change the fact that wakey are struggling for a medium term SL future. Other wakey fans know it.
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| Quote ="littlerich"..................and is currently thanking his lucky stars that Ken Davy is still fighting fit.'"
We are delighted. As are many clubs that have wealthy backers. Where do you think wakey would be if Ted Richardson walked away?
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| Quote ="Lance Cobra"To be fair, if Wakey are paying a plantpot like Sculthorpe
£1600 per week they must surely be paying the good players a hell of a lot more so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were in Scully Street!! (Do you like what I did there?
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Some wakey fans like to pretend that other clubs flash the cheque book.
Who else would pay scully £85K a year?
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