So that helps prove that refs always favour Saints at home ...

At the end of the day, Catalan go high and mess about at the PTB, everyone knows they do, it shows in the amount of penalties they have conceded, Saints also do this, but they don't get penalised as much for it, Saints are talented and have the skill to win, they don't need to mess about at the PTB but they seem to do this.
In my own opinion of course. =.
Also, how did this thread go on to, Saints vs Leeds - whos best. Saints vs Wigan - whos best? :S

Another Saints fan that doesnt remotely read whats been posted so far...

I read what had been posted up to your post, to which I responded.

This thread was started about a particular team 'bending' the rules.

Another poster claimed that refs are 'nice' to a particular team – especially when that team is at home.

It was subsequently pointed out that a particular 'bending of the rules' was happening across the board. Which, unless, penalties were only applied to one team for such an offence, suggests that this 'bending of ye old world rules' is not limited to any one team.

Ergo, the title and main tenet of this thread is bølløcks.

Top teams get the 50/50 calls going in their favour, doesnt matter what the sport, what the ref, so yes, in context of the thread title, it is innacturate, Leeds should also be in there



As it happens I think for the most part Thaler had a good game, and wasnt giving calls in anyones favour (though I do think the forward pass call to deny cats was wrong)

My personal point was that at a stage where the game was still in reach of a Cats side who have shown the can make a big come back Thaler made two calls that were utterly incorrect and within a couple of minutes the game was over as a contest.

So in this case two, almost identical, bad calls turned the game from a contest to a whitewash.

I love all this anti-saints stuff. It just goes to show that you all still fear them.

Might as well have named the thread "Everyone who is jealous of saints post here"

When has that ever stopped them

Mintball supports Saints?

She continues to go up in my estimations...

They were both at best 50:50 - had they been given Catalans way, I wouldnt have complained too heartily. Does the benefit of doubt to the attacking team not come into this?

Saints were in possession, the ball rattled round and both times a player from each team was holding onto the ball, it seems logical to play on with the attacking team in possession in that situation.

Anyway, on the second one Carlaw knocked on, so it should have been a scrum to Saints anyway.

I don't agree. I think Thaler's interpretation was pretty much spot-on. I have to fault him on his communication though - he don't call who had the ball and there was also the panalty against Baile where Thaler had called "play on" and then he penalised Baile for a "second" tackle.
I don't think the decisions would have changed the match result, as I think Saints wanted it more than we did and our game plan was not the right one to beat Saints at KR.
What it does change is 3 penalties on the stats that allows tim791 to spout the kind of nonsence he does.

UTTER TOSH load of Bollax
Saints and Leeds have won more Honours together than Wigan Fact

FACT



Read his post again. He says Saints OR Leeds. Not both combined.

Christ, since I first watching Wigan in 1989 we've won 29 trophies - and I don't know Rogues but I do know he has many more years than me watching Wigan, so he could easily have seen us win more than Saints OR Leeds ever have.

Overseas payments have helped.

Sounds like a good idea to me. Pity we didn't continue because Saints decided to copy the blueprint for success...
Long, Joynt, Sullivan. Wilkin, Aussies etc

Good point, well made.

Hull KR got EVERY decision at Knowsley Road this season. So there goes your theory that 'little' teams dont get the decisions.

You mean you didn't get let off with things like blatant offside and markers not square and it cost you

So little that we're second in SL and in the QFs of the CC, oh and did I mention beating Saints at KR

Yes, you are a small club.

Probably the worse conspiracy of them all is a saints team with Ganson on the field losing to Wigan at Murrayfield. This will give him the all clear to ref the Leeds and St Helens final at Old Trafford. If this is the case then I shall never ever watch super league again whilst this corruption is in force.

Yes, coming from the person that has no purpose, oh and arnt you Saints fan aswell

This thread makes me feel almost as depressed as the next revelation about MPs' expenses fiddles.

Can someone kill it please ?

It is why GB will always struggle against the Aussies. The play the ball is so slow.

Saints though are quite possibly the most disgaraceful team to grace the field in todays game, and have been for the past 15 years.