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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Burger and chips £8 on saturday shocking'"
Dis you get Lidl mince or Waitrose mince though
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"It's a case of attitude and opinion, not facts or numbers.
Giant Daz's reasoning for not liking Wigan fans were all based on the attitude of Wigan fans, not how many show up and not even how many walk with 20 minutes left. Your own forum is full of fickle fans who want everyone sacked when you lose or everyone knighted when you win.'"
Incorrect. So every supporter is fickle? Does every Wigan supporter agree with every single topic on an internet forum? Your basing your opinion of Wigan fans off an internet forum....Not very credible.
Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"
Half of your fans never saw the glory years of Wigan, yet still choose to base their divine right to say you are a big club by reliving them 15 years after they ended.'"
But we are a big club though, aren't we? Also, to have gained 50% more support since our glory years ended actually speaks wonder for our fans, doesn't it?
Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"This thread is about personal opinion based on their own experiences with facilities, pitches and fans, not your opinion based on the reputation you think your own fans should have.'"
Unfortunately, most 'experiences' that supporters have ''witnessed'' in regards to fans are from RLFANS.COM.
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Worst Facilities: I'm not suprised at Wakefield being many peoples first choice but Wheldon Road is a dump too, amost as bad as Belle Vue.
Worst Pitch: I'll go with Bradford
Worst Fans: The feuding factions of Humber Town, for their constant derailing of any discussion.'"
Correct, but to Cas folk Wheldon Rd is architecturally the Taj Mahal so they are a bit blinkered.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Incorrect. So every supporter is fickle? Does every Wigan supporter agree with every single topic on an internet forum? Your basing your opinion of Wigan fans off an internet forum....Not very credible.
But we are a big club though, aren't we? Also, to have gained 50% more support since our glory years ended actually speaks wonder for our fans, doesn't it?
Unfortunately, most 'experiences' that supporters have ''witnessed'' in regards to fans are from RLFANS.COM.'" My experience of wigan fans from being unlucky enough to grow up near wigan and go to college in wigan is that a hell of a lot of them are arrogant and stuck in the glory days thinking they have a god given right to win everything.
Now I know a lot aren't like that but I can understand why these people have made it so some fans aren't keen on certain aspects of the wigan fan base.
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| Quote ="gateaux"My experience of wigan fans from being unlucky enough to grow up near wigan and go to college in wigan is that a hell of a lot of them are arrogant and stuck in the glory days thinking they have a god given right to win everything.
Now I know a lot aren't like that but I can understand why these people have made it so some fans aren't keen on certain aspects of the wigan fan base.'"
Out of interest, what year did you go to college in Wigan?
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Incorrect. So every supporter is fickle? Does every Wigan supporter agree with every single topic on an internet forum? Your basing your opinion of Wigan fans off an internet forum....Not very credible.
But we are a big club though, aren't we? Also, to have gained 50% more support since our glory years ended actually speaks wonder for our fans, doesn't it?
Unfortunately, most 'experiences' that supporters have ''witnessed'' in regards to fans are from RLFANS.COM.'"
No, I was using the fans on your forum as an example I could prove with links (or just point people towards your board). I don't have links to what people have said on Facebook, or MSN, or other forums, or in person at games.
You're one of the big 6, but not quite as high up as you think you are. At a guess, 50% of that 50% were attracted to the club by the thought of glory brought by success in recent years (sort of like Man Utd in wendyball). I'm much more impressed with the crowds that Hull FC, Hull KR and Catalans pull in despite being without glory for a number of years, if at all.
I witnessed the two attempts by Wigan fans to kick off at the HJ in the space of a week. I've witnessed the Wigan walk hundreds and hundreds of times over the years, both in person and on the telebox. I'm basing my opinion on what I have seen and experienced myself, which is why I haven't mentioned the facilities of Quins, Hull KR or Celtic, as I haven't experienced them in person.
Stop trying to change peoples opinions to be the same as yours, that just proves why people have a dislike about some your fans.
If you want me to build an opinion on every single Wigan fan, then I will require around £30k to fund my research. I have to base my opinion on Wigan fans as a whole, on what stands out the most (see my point about Celtic fans earlier)
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Out of interest, what year did you go to college in Wigan?'" 2000 - 2002
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| facilities: wakefield - i cant stand that place- always shelter under the tree at the back
pitch: ours (wigan) aint the best but because i cant vote for ourselves id say warrington for the sandy state it was in the last time i seen it
fans: warrington, the abuse they gave matt king was out of order, the days of the old warrington fans spirit has long gone!
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Didn't realise people from Cas could count to 3
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| Quote ="rover49"Dis you get Lidl mince or Waitrose mince though'"
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| facilities Hull KR
pitch Watersheddings(past)-desperate pitch in Winter,Odsal(present)
fans Fev(past)-had some bad experiences with them,Saints(present)-think they are above everyone,Queens-nuff said
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| worst facilities wakefield
worst pitch odsal
worst fans wigan
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Or is it a case of little team syndrome?
I backed my argument with facts.'"
oh dear, you still upset that my 'little' team have, once again, beaten your massive,huge,shouldnt be allowed to lose to Huddersfield,almighty,colossal,former great team ???
aww boo hoo
get used to it because the days of Huddersfield been easy beats for Wigan have long gone - take your head out of the pie filling and accept that your not great anymore !
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"oh dear, you still upset that my 'little' team have, once again, beaten your massive,huge,shouldnt be allowed to lose to Huddersfield,almighty,colossal,former great team ???
aww boo hoo
get used to it because the days of Huddersfield been easy beats for Wigan have long gone - take your head out of the pie filling and accept that your not great anymore !
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How old are you? 10?
Totally missed the point.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"icon_lol.gif How old are you? 10?
Totally missed the point.'"
no i'm not 10
as far as i can see, your point is that people shouldnt think bad of Wigan fans because they have the right to moan and whinge if they lose to 'small' teams like Huddersfield because Wigan used to be the best team and should always be 'better' than most teams.
This topic is about people's individual opinions - we dont have to justify why we have chosen those clubs we have do we?
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| Out of what I've been to:
Worst Facilities - I'd say Wakefield, but I think that Belle Vue despite its antiquated and shabbyness, has quite a bit of a culture about it. It has the memoirs of where rugby league came from - working class, part-time background.
Similarly, Cas's is just the same but as it is about other sides, I'd have to say that Hull KR's and Salford's are the worst. The good news is that Hull KR have plans to rectify that, whereas Salford's is still very much just a pipe dream.
Worst Pitch - The worst pitch I've seen is probably the JJB, but that's mainly attributed to the fact it has a football team playing on it too.
Worst Fans - It would be wrong to label a minority as the worst fans. All fans have an element of their fanbase which the sport could do without.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"as far as i can see, your point is that people shouldnt think bad of Wigan fans because they have the right to moan and whinge if they lose to 'small' teams like Huddersfield because Wigan used to be the best team and should always be 'better' than most teams.'"
Wrong. My point is that Wigan supporters shouldn't be seen as arrogant if they think they should have beaten clubs such as Huddersfield, Wakefield and Castleford this season as Wigan have consistantly finished higher in the table than these clubs year upon year upto 2008, apart from the odd exeption.
Quote ="GIANT DAZ"This topic is about people's individual opinions - we dont have to justify why we have chosen those clubs we have do we?'"
Unless you're happy to come across as either jealous/bitter about Wigan and their postive/negative history, then yes.
Unfortunately, our history is where most negetive opinions of Wigan supporters stem from.
Read the topic and posts thoroughly next time.
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| to be honest Alex BP- the fact that your questioning people's reasons for putting Wigan down is not helping people's opinions - your making yourself look like a bitter, moaning wigan fan - i'm sure you're not, although i've never met you so wouldnt even start commenting on you personally,but the attitude you have taken is one that a lot of fans see as bad about Wigan fans .
Rather than question why some people dont have a high opinion of Wigan fans just accept it rather than take issue with that particular person !.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"to be honest Alex BP- the fact that your questioning people's reasons for putting Wigan down is not helping people's opinions - your making yourself look like a bitter, moaning wigan fan - i'm sure you're not, although i've never met you so wouldnt even start commenting on you personally,but the attitude you have taken is one that a lot of fans see as bad about Wigan fans .
Rather than question why some people dont have a high opinion of Wigan fans just accept it rather than take issue with that particular person !.'"
But it wasn't just Wigan that I was defending.
I was defending clubs such as Wigan, Leeds and Hull KR.
But that seems to have been ignored and a Wigan v smaller clubs row has developed.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"But it wasn't just Wigan that I was defending.
I was defending clubs such as Wigan, Leeds and Hull KR.
But that seems to have been ignored and a Wigan v smaller clubs row has developed.'" Thats because you have chosen to take everything personally.
The idea of this thread was for people to post their own opinions, just because someones opinion isn't the same as yours doesn't make them wrong, infact a lot of what you have posted has probably just made people realise there is some truth in the reason behind their views.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Thats because you have chosen to take everything personally.
The idea of this thread was for people to post their own opinions, just because someones opinion isn't the same as yours doesn't make them wrong, infact a lot of what you have posted has probably just made people realise there is some truth in the reason behind their views.'"
exactly the point i am trying to make
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Unless you're happy to come across as either jealous/bitter about Wigan and their postive/negative history, then yes.'"
I see none of the Wakefield fans are jumping on those who say they have the worst facilities. People are stating, quite correctly, that dislike the fans from Wigan who are arrogant and cocky. They have every right to say that if that is their opinion. Just because you don't believe you are (although you have shown you are with this post), doesn't mean you can tell people they are wrong
Quote ="Alex BP'"Unfortunately, our history is where most negetive opinions of Wigan supporters stem from.'"
Your history is where your fans get their arrogance and cockiness from. You'll find most fans dislike Wigan fans because you still believe you have the divine right to say you're bigger than everyone else
Quote ="Alex BP'"Read the topic and posts thoroughly next time.'"
May I suggest you read the original point of the thread, which is to express opinions on the worst facilities, pitch and fans.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Oooh, listen to him in his big shiny(not their own) stadium.'"
Who owns yours..........havent you just flogged your lease.
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