Jesus H christ....Wellens over Richards...stop it..my sides are splitting.

1. St Helens
2. Leeds
3. Catalan
4. Bradford
5. Wigan
6. Hull KR
7. Hull
8. Warrington
9. Harlequins
10. Huddersfield
11. Castleford
12. Wakefield
13. Salford
14. Celtic Crusaders

Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Catalans
Bradford
Warrington
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Harlequins
Wakefield
Castleford
Salford
Celtic

We will again have a good play-off series but either the FE or GF will be one step to far again. Leeds or Saints will win the GF.

There is no suprise package in the table above but if there is one team to do something extra next season it will be Huddersfield or Wigan

Saints
Leeds
Wire
Catalans
Wigan
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Harlequins
Wakefield
Castleford
Salford
Celtic

I think the recruitment at most clubs so far has been poor, I think Hudds are the only ones to have significantly improved and even then they are still average. I'm not sure Catalans can kick on from this season so its more of them coming down a peg or two rather than Wire getting better

My preditction is

Leeds by a few points
Saints
Wigan could either be 2
Wire
Hull
Giants
Cas suprices package but i would say that
Hull KR
Catalan
Wake first coach to to sacked
Salford
Celtic the firs team ever to only get 2 points

Kear is good at one thing only and that's providing an almost immediate impact at a club. For that reason, a lot of fans take an instant shine to him and are blinkered for the rest of his time in charge. You're never going to achieve any more consistency with Kear in charge or improve the squad at all, regardless of financial considerations or anything else. To be honest, out of all the coaches currently around Kear is probably the last one I'd want in charge of my club, and that isn't a Wakefield thing because I said exactly the same to the Hull fans.

1. Saints
2. Leeds
3. Wigan
4. Hull
5. Catalan
6. Bradford
7. Warrington
8. Huddersfield
9. Hull KR
10. Wakefield
11. Quins
12. Crusaders
13. Salford
14. Castleford.

Hey! Fax hold that record. Well at least until they took the 2 points off us that is,

1. Leeds ( Slightly stronger than last year )
2. Saints ( Slightly weaker )
3. Wigan ( Biggest top 2 challengers )
4. Bradford ( Good pack )
5. Harlequins ( Much better than they are made out to be )
6. Warrington ( Nothing much will change )
7. Hull ( Less injuries I feel )
8. Catalan ( Still spring up some good wins )
9. Huddersfield ( Expectations too high )
10. Hull KR ( Perform with passion but lack of quality )
11. Castleford ( Much improved year )
12. Wakefield ( Going backwards )
13. Salford ( I think there defence will be good, just not sure where the points are )
14. Celtic ( Will put up a good showing )

Leeds v Wigan final I feel.
Warrington Challenge Cup winners

What a crock of this thread and most of the contributions too it.

firstly lots of teams still have not finished their recruiting.

there seems to be no consideration of squad depth and competition for places. what will be the effect on teams of injuries crocker is going to be the saviour of Hull. If he gets injured does that mean Hull will be crucified.

how will the new players fit in. if they click the teams might do well if not they will struggle. ( If Carney plays well as he is the creative link we have lacked for so long i can see huddersfield in the top 4. If not i can see us in the bottom 4 )

Too much emphasis is put on too small facets of indavidual teams ie Bradford have a good pack. According to their board they have no backs.wakefield fans feel they have good backs but no 2nd rows.

What influence will the new coaches have potter at saints, Brown at the Giants.

will some players have hangovers from the World cup. how long will it take for them to recahrge their batteries.

When someone starts making predictions based on looking at some facts then thequality of the contributions on here might improve

I'm amazed Saints do so well. Considering they're back line is so bad.

Crocker aint our saviour, however based on the fact that Horne, Dykes, King, Motu and Carvell barely played at all last year injuries perimtting we should be a lot stronger in 2009.

To be honest, there's a few teams that could apply to.

But surely these are the opinions of people on the recruiment so far , as that is all you can do

As regards facts , the only facts are the players recruited anything else is purely speculation , ie opinions like yours

Quins recruitment is over so start worrying!!!!

your on drugs aren't you

And I bet they taste bitter.



Here's my uneducated (and optimistic) guess..

[iTop 2 from: [/i
Leeds
Saints
[iNext 4 from:[/i
Bradford
Catalans
Warrington
Wigan
[iNext 4 from:[/i
Castleford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
[iBottom 4 from:[/i
Crusaders
Harlequins
Salford
Wakefield

Replace wellens with greenshields and you might have a point, though the point that richards is one of the best backs in the league remains valid, can you think of one team he couldnt get into?

Top 4
Leeds
St Helens
Warrington
Catalans/Hull/Wigan

5-10
Hull/Catalans/Wigan
Bradford
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Cas/Wakefield

11-14
Wakefield/Cas
Harlequins
Salford
Celtic Crusaders

The teams in each category could finish anywhere within that category imo

Thats wrong Nicky Standton at Leigh next season.

Halequins are much better than most are making out with their predictions. They also seems to be getting the youth policy right at last. I'm very exited about Clubb, LMS, Sharp & co.

I would certainly agree with you that quins youth policy is producign some excellent players, the reason why (and perhaps others) put quins low down in the table is that they have lost 3 playmakers (rinaldi, hill and paul) and only brought dorn in to replace them, while dorns not a bad player he can be expected to fill the shoes of three players, and plays his best rugby as a support player (for me he is arguabley the best support player in the league), who thrives off converting his playmakers hard work into points.

Celtic and Salford to finish above Wakie Cas and Hull FC, a pint of what your having please.

why cause i think cas will finish bottom...again?