To take you final point first, I was under the impression that we cannot borrow money against the land, but I might be wrong.
I think (hope) that the club realise that there is no more room for the kind of bull they have given both to the RFL and indeed to us supporters in the past (even before 2008!). It's now or never, it simply HAS to happen if Cas are to survice in SL.

Yes and no, the only caveat to this is that it is illegal to knowingly enter into a building contract without having secured sufficient funding, at the time of signing, to fund the full extent of the development (including a contingency of I seem to recall 10%) proposed within the contract. However, you can issue a full contract with phases included within it and therefore at the commencement of the first and subsequent phases, under written contract instruction, only having funding for each stage.

Just also seen your post in between this one, no problem, I didn't think you were having a go mate and I agree with you.

I've no interest in seeing you fail, I just think if you can't deliver a SL standard stadium for 2012 you don't deserve a franchise especially after the 2008 promises and the warning letter from the RFL earlier last year. It just wouldn't be fair on Halifax. It quite clear Widnes will replace us which is fair enough considering we entered administration.

Regarding your funding do me a favour if what you listed are such money spinners why isn't every club in new stadium owned by themselves? Nearly all modern SL ground have had large part of funding from local authorities, without them the project wouldn't of happended. Come on Mr Lewis get in the real world

I would imagine that this will be the case, unless we have some sort of Russian oil tycoon or Saudi royal waiting in the wings.

Just to clarify, The Metrel sponsorship in the new stadium is worth about 4% of the total build cost, The Probiz new stadium sponsorship is worth 3 times this. Waystone and Probiz are on hand to make sure the stadium goes up. If its a case of owning part of the stadium, And we buy it back over a number of years so be it. But come mid 2012, We will be playing there

But remember that Stadia is only part of the criteria for SL. Although WR might not be up to standard, we may well be stronger that Halifax in all other areas of the application (youth development, attendance figures etc), in which case the decision would be wholly fair.

The stadium has been costed at 11.5 million.

How do you know how much wheldon road will sell for?

Waystone (the developer) are putting money in.

Obviously we are not getting all that from sponsorship, but we are getting alot more than you would think, we have doubled what we get from sponsorship in the last 2 years.

Cas have not made all there sources of funding public and have there reasons for that.

The full 4 sided stadium? Wow you should have a word with Newmarket developers because I'm sure a similar size stadium was costed at 20M£ (with some other facilities on top)



I would give you a very generous 5m but i suspect nowhere near that considering the toxic nature of land in the area. Why hasn't it been sold yet? Tell me what you think it's worth?



For what in return? And why now, why not 3 years ago.



How do you know that? From what I can gather Dickie Wright would like to give that perception off, in fact we heard all these noises in 2008!



Yes I would guess the reason is they dont have the money!

Really its worth all that but you had to sell Joe Westerman to pay for the Planning permission that was put in without the check to process it.

awesome for the club, much easy for away fans to get too

can someone please post piccies here, those links dont work for me

happy for the club that this seems to be going through

will cas own the stadium eventually then? if so thats v.good. whats the rent situation like?

The person you are replying to knows all thing Castleford Tigers, I'd listen to him if I were you.

seriously you sound really bitter, get over it.

cas dont have to convince the RFL of anything re their franchise bid cause your club are going down, down down

Course they do afterall they did send us down twice and we kept them up (not that it matters) but they're very bitter looking at the state of both clubs now.

wakey got the same help from council cas did.

but cas have spent years at it, rather than some half baked mickey mouse plan cobbled together 6 months before the franchise decision

seriously just ignore him hes trolling, well done.

get it built and you are a SL club for decades

Cas are in a much stronger position than Wakey IMO, I really can't see Cas being the club to miss out.

The lasting image of Wheldon Road for me has to be from when Wigan played there last year, and near me there was a bloke who was the spitting image of Barry Chuckle, in shorts on a showery spring day.




Good luck with the new stadium, it may be a soulless box, but at least it'll be a soulless box that earns you money.

Its truely remarkable that people bother to argue about things they know nothing about.

We didn't "have" to sell westerman to fit the bill. We saw an opportunity to get money. And took it. It just so happens the figures were similar.

Fwiw. We renamed the current ground, Which we were previously getting sweet FA for. And that money would also have covered the planning costs.

New market is all seater, which will make the stadium more expensive, and as your fans keep telling us will have 'community facilities' which will also add to the price, whats more some companies do better deals than others and going on wakefields proffesionalism in recent years they probably got someone who wasnt very good to do the costing. And yes the 11.5 million is for the whole stadium, as much as you are desperate to think it will cost more.

So its a complete guess with nothing to back it up? thought so, more wishful thinking from the bitter little man.It hasnt been sold yet because the blast zone on the the nearby hicksons site prevented (though of course you already know this) it, this was lifted a few months ago and now cas are in the process of selling it. We were offered 6 million for it a few years ago and at the time that was considered a poor deal, we will be getting something around that mark as the building firms know the land in that area of castleford is going to increase in value considerably over the next few years as its part of a massive redevelopment that will also include the former hicksons and site and the nestle site when that closes next year.

Waystone will get a stake in the stadium and it will also increase the value of the rest of land they have redeveloped round glasshoughton. Waystone have always been going to put money in, and have also given us the land for the stadium. Why did waystone not give cash towards building before we have planning permission? well that should pretty obvious even for you.

It should be preety obvious to anyone that the number and quality of our sponsors has increased considerably in recent years with even the smallest amount of research. I also know someone involved with the club, who has always been right before, that has given me an idea of just how much our sponsorship has increased in the last two years and the figures are very good.

Then you would be guessing wrong.

If i were you i would concentrate on the plight of your own club instead of increasingly desperatly hoping we will fail

I am not getting involved in the argument but for clarity Newmarket is not all Seater, both 'end' terraces are proposed to be standing with both the main and other touch line stand, seated. Newmarket is proposed to have less seats than the current GH proposal because of the concert format requirement at GH.

Apologies then if the format has changed, it was announced originally as an all seater as i recall.

I believe it was also costed at 19 million not 20 million.

a complete waste of time trying to convince anyone that the funding is in place and where it is coming from,time will reveal all and only then will anyone be able to say told you so.

im convinced it will happen, when is anyones guess has these developements take years of planning and just has long to deliver and build.

we are well on our way and the fact the club went alone with help from wmdc and waystone who had the building nouse should be applauded after all we could have sat back and blamed everybody else for not having a stadium built for us.

i also believe that the club now have a little bit of time been bought for us by our neighbours, now deadlines arnt quite so urgent has confirmed by a major shareholder on casforum last week,also interesting to note back last september he said wakefields bid would go to a public enquiry and this would lead to them going bankrupt and going into administration the rst of what he put is obvious but i believe he will be proved correct by june.

What a surprise the only Wakefield fan to come on here and start spouting off is deeHell.

can anybody please tell me the reasons yorkcourt are going to build wakefield a brand new stadium for free. it seems to me that there must be some wdmc involvement, but i,m only guessing. also there was the promise of £350,000 gift or loan again i,m not sure which.