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| Quote ="El Ninho"Have you traced your family tree?
Are you descended from a sheep rustler or a highwayman?'"
neither my bloodlines aint english thank god.
though faced with a choice in living in a freezing cold country all my life or australia, id have stolen bread too to get here
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Is that why there were all those empty petri dishes in the aussie changing rooms?
I thought the Chinese were they only ones that got away with that these days.
Still, I suppose you'll have to resort to drastic tactics if you want to wrestle the world cup from NZ
You know, the world cup - the pinnacle of the game you love so much above all others (and are so very, very, very, very, very good at) but can't seem to win
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the pinnacle of rugby league is state of origin.
new zealand and england dont play in it
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...so, let me get this straight.
Rugby League (The northern rugby Union) wasn't born in The George Hotel in Huddersfield? Ok.....so where was the first split from the RFU that created a game we now called rugby league created?
So, the English didn't bring it to Australia eh? Did one of you lot nick it then? The meeting that took place in Bateman's Crystal Hotel in 1907.....and it was just a coincidence that the name and rules applied were pretty similar (try almost exactly the same) to those developed in the North of England.....
So, just so I am clear here.......YOU INVENTED A GAME THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN INVENTED AND ROLLED UP A YEAR LATER ON A TOUR PLAYING THE SAME RULES.....spooky. Some one call the X-files.'"
looks like the isish education is a dud one.
no, the english did not take RL to australia.
the irony
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| Quote ="dally messenger"icon_lol.gif
looks like the isish education is a dud one.
no, the english did not take RL to australia.
the irony'"
God those isish are thick aren't they?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"the only sport i care about is RL.
so that means im a very, very happy person
all the other sports dont matter to me. you can take back union now if you want.
imagine living in a country where union is bigger than league.
imagine living in a country where football doesnt mean league either.
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Or a country where AFL is bigger than league?
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| AwFuL is big in it's own mind only, the garbage the AFL have gone on with since SOO 3 is amazing, they have shown the whole country over the last week how scared and vulnerable they really are.
It's been quite funny
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| Quote ="dally messenger"the pinnacle of rugby league is state of origin.
new zealand and england dont play in it'"
Tell that to Karmichael Hunt.
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| Quote ="bill"Or a country where AFL is bigger than league?'"
which country is that.
in australia RL is the biggest sport when you include both TV viewing figures and crowds. and that ignores our team in NZ.
15 australian RL teams do more than 16 AFL teams.
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| Quote ="declaration"Tell that to Karmichael Hunt.'"
karmichael hunt plays for australia mate.
pleased to help someone learn about RL.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"God those isish are thick aren't they?'"
picking out typos huh?
ouch, that really hurts.
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| Quote dally messenger wrote: the pinnacle of rugby league is state of origin. '"
The pinnacle of Rugby League is the world cup
- those who win it are the best in the world
- that just happens to be New Zealand not Australia.
The aussies simply beleived their own media and hype and did not get themselves up for the most important match, watch their faces afterwards - they were all completely gutted. This makes them second best on more than one count.
You resort to bigging up your own competition to hide your embarrassment and bruised ego.
There are few that care about SOO outside Aus.
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| Quote ="Dreamer"The pinnacle of Rugby League is the world cup
- those who win it are the best in the world
- that just happens to be New Zealand not Australia.
The aussies simply beleived their own media and hype and did not get themselves up for the most important match, watch their faces afterwards - they were all completely gutted. This makes them second best on more than one count.
You resort to bigging up your own competition to hide your embarrassment and bruised ego.
There are few that care about SOO outside Aus.'"
the pinnacle of RL is Origin.
take out australians playing for other nations in the last world cup and you have 3 proper teams.
2 really as england were s**t.
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| Quote dally messenger wrote: the pinnacle of RL is Origin.
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If you shout it long enough and loud enough you may convince yourself.
If it was the pinnacle then the World Cup should have been easy, but we know what happened don't we
Embarrassment and bruised egos
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| Quote ="Dreamer"If you shout it long enough and loud enough you may convince yourself.
If it was the pinnacle then the World Cup should have been easy, but we know what happened don't we
Embarrassment and bruised egos
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anybody that thinks international isnt much more than a joke doesnt watch much.
2 upset wins in finals is supposed to make it competitive?
heck, NZ couldnt beat australia for years in between those wins.
and of course the standard of footy is worse as well.
its why each origin game gets double the TV viewers the RLWC got in australia.
people just dont care about the RLWC here vs origin
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| Quote dally messenger wrote: heck, NZ couldnt beat australia for years in between those wins.
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They beat you when it mattered, you are not the best in the world.
You are just digging a bigger hole for yourself with all these painful excuses, but perhaps you should get a JCB to make sure your ego fits as well
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| Quote ="Dreamer"They beat you when it mattered, you are not the best in the world.
You are just digging a bigger hole for yourself with all these painful excuses, but perhaps you should get a JCB to make sure your ego fits as well
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i was cheering for nz and i attended the final.
having attended both many RLWC games and origin, i can tell you which is the pinnacle.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"karmichael hunt plays for australia mate.
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Yep.
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| In answer to the original title, we have been taking the "aussie influence" since 1982 and look where we are still!!!
Contrary to your opinion that everything "aussie" is fine, I would suggest that although there is a lot regarding media and promotion that could be learned, the main thing is how to structure and develop the game.
That will never change, well in my lifetime anyway, due to the inward thinking, myopic view of the game that the clubs have.
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| The original line of the thread stated that "Australia are the dominant force in World footy"
Being seeded No 1 and actually producing the goods when it matters are two different things entirely.
Distracting the thread to SOO is just that a distraction.
Quote dally messenger wrote: having attended both many RLWC games and origin, i can tell you which is the pinnacle'"
Why should I value your myopic judgment. A truer test would be to ask any aussie what colour shirt he would rather wear - "green and gold" perhaps .
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| Quote ="Dreamer"The original line of the thread stated that "Australia are the dominant force in World footy"
Being seeded No 1 and actually producing the goods when it matters are two different things entirely.
Distracting the thread to SOO is just that a distraction.
Why should I value your myopic judgment. A truer test would be to ask any aussie what colour shirt he would rather wear - "green and gold" perhaps
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if you dont value my judgement, dont respond to my posts.
easy.
if you ever came to sydney and saw how aussies treat RL youd know what we are talking about.
for 55% of australia, their major footy code is RL.
thats a fantastic thing
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"In answer to the original title, we have been taking the "aussie influence" since 1982 and look where we are still!!!
Contrary to your opinion that everything "aussie" is fine, I would suggest that although there is a lot regarding media and promotion that could be learned, the main thing is how to structure and develop the game.
That will never change, well in my lifetime anyway, due to the inward thinking, myopic view of the game that the clubs have.'"
the big problem is a small minded mentality from some clubs where its old fashioned ways of doing things.
SL done really well so far since its been brought in. i think the next decade will see a big improvment in on field stuff and quality of juniors.
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| Quote dally messenger wrote: if you dont value my judgement, dont respond to my posts'"
I, like others, respond to give a balanced viewpoint. If you are not capable of debate go back and finish your schoolwork.
You gloat about how good you think you are, start to loose the debate then try to undermine other posters by suggesting that your knowledge is superior. How very Australian.
Quote dally messenger wrote: if you ever came to sydney and saw how aussies treat RL youd know what we are talking about.
for 55% of australia, their major footy code is RL.
thats a fantastic thing'"
Not sure what you are on about -= can you translate please
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| Quote ="Dreamer"I, like others, respond to give a balanced viewpoint. If you are not capable of debate go back and finish your schoolwork.
You gloat about how good you think you are, start to loose the debate then try to undermine other posters by suggesting that your knowledge is superior. How very Australian.
Not sure what you are on about -= can you translate please'"
the debate might be loose, but i havent been losing anything
im not surprised an english fan wouldnt understand how big RL is in australia.
poor you
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| Quote dally messenger wrote: the debate might be loose, but i havent been losing anything
im not surprised an english fan wouldnt understand how big RL is in australia.
poor you'"
Hmmmm. First you are full of yourself then:-
- you are proved wrong
- you deflect the debate
- you act superior
- you condescend
You must be Australian
Poor you
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| If super league is so poor and England is rubbish at rugby league then why does Barry McKenzie spend half is life writing about in on here?
For something that's not important to convicts he loves to bang on about it.
I wonder how he as the cheek when he's a fan of a 2nd rate Aussie team.
In some ways he is correct, we shouldn't have so many convicts over here as crime we defo be on the up with the Aussies here.
Rape, glassing women, drugs, drink probelems is not what we want playing in super league.
The worst thing this country did when we shipped all our convicts to oz, was not to build a wall round them.
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