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| Quote ="Lebron James"Like Scott Grix losing his dignity by signing for wakefield instead of retiring you mean?
Regards
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What a nasty thing to say - typical King scumbag James thing to say.
Grix is doing just fine thanks.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Wow we must have given you the same video we were given on this useless lump, I think we gave him a second chance to prove he wasan't as bad as we had witnessed first time. ow dear what a pile of p**p
Thanks Wakey we owe you one.'"
You do realise he'll almost certainly be a huge success for us don't you - we've rehabilitated far worse.
You may well be eating humble pie on this one
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| Quote ="vastman"You do realise he'll almost certainly be a huge success for us don't you - we've rehabilitated far worse.
You may well be eating humble pie on this one'"
You know what your probably right, however i'm not sure on this fella why we brought him in i'll never know and am glad Wakey are always keen to take our "hand me downs"
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| Mose Masoe to hull kr for the 8s with a year option
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| Quote ="barham red"Mose Masoe to hull kr for the 8s with a year option'"
Wrong thread.
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| Burrow retirement confirmed.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Wrong thread.'"
So any team in the middle 8s shouldn't post signings then? Or are you just a typical Hull FC fan being a bit mischievous?
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"So any team in the middle 8s shouldn't post signings then? Or are you just a typical Hull FC fan being a bit mischievous?'"
Or it was a joke, lighten up. Or do you need a wink to turn on your sense of humour.
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| 9 overseas players at Rovers, have they released someone or do they have some exceptions (I know about Moss)?
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| Quote ="Dave K."9 overseas players at Rovers, have they released someone or do they have some exceptions (I know about Moss)?'"
AFAIK Dockar-Clay doesn't count because of his age
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| Quote ="Baxendale"AFAIK Dockar-Clay doesn't count because of his age'"
Wasn't he 21 when he signed?
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| Updated:-
Rob Burrow
IN: Retriement
OUT: Leeds
and sorry KR fans not in Super League just yet
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| Quote ="Dave K."9 overseas players at Rovers, have they released someone or do they have some exceptions (I know about Moss)?'"
Come on David, I thought you were a fountain of knowledge all things Hull KR, you spout enough rhubarb on our forum to give that impression. I will help you out on this little dilemma that you seem to have.
Mitch Clark- Born in Pontefract
Zach Dockar-Clay- Grandad born in Hull, British passport.
Keiran Moss- Mum born in England
Andrew Heffernan- Maltese Passport
Jake Fleming- Australian Passport
Adam Quinlan- Australian passport
Bobby Blair- Australian passport
Justin Carney- Australian passport
Mose Masoe- Samoan passport- (KOLPAK agreement)
So that makes 4 players with an "oversees" quota place, the rest is complicated but still stands regards employment.
To be fair, the fact Heffernans granddad was born in Malta, but moved to Aussie as a youth really does make a mockery of the fact we can dodge a bullet regarding quota eligibility.
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| Quote ="vastman"What a nasty thing to say - typical King scumbag James thing to say.
Grix is doing just fine thanks.'"
As im sure McGuire will do at Hull Kr. I was responding to a well known wakefield troll who claimed that McGuire lacks dignity for not retiring and instead, signing for Hull Kr.
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| Quote ="robinrovers10"Come on David, I thought you were a fountain of knowledge all things Hull KR, you spout enough rhubarb on our forum to give that impression. I will help you out on this little dilemma that you seem to have.
Mitch Clark- Born in Pontefract
Zach Dockar-Clay- Grandad born in Hull, British passport.
Keiran Moss- Mum born in England
Andrew Heffernan- Maltese Passport
Jake Fleming- Australian Passport
Adam Quinlan- Australian passport
Bobby Blair- Australian passport
Justin Carney- Australian passport
Mose Masoe- Samoan passport- (KOLPAK agreement)
So that makes 4 players with an "oversees" quota place, the rest is complicated but still stands regards employment.
To be fair, the fact Heffernans granddad was born in Malta, but moved to Aussie as a youth really does make a mockery of the fact we can dodge a bullet regarding quota eligibility.'"
I've explained all this to you before Ronnie. Passports and where you're born don't matter anymore, it's whether they're classed as Federation (RLEF) or Non-Federation trained. You're allowed 7 of the latter. Of course, the RFL can also grant special dispensation.
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| Fair play to Rob Burrow in not dragging out his playing career like an old sick dog.
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| Quote ="DGM"I've explained all this to you before Ronnie. Passports and where you're born don't matter anymore, it's whether they're classed as Federation (RLEF) or Non-Federation trained. You're allowed 7 of the latter. Of course, the RFL can also grant special dispensation.'"
I've also tried, but it's pointless as he isn't bright enough to understand the non fed rule, so they must have got special dispensation for one of their current non fed players so they can have 9 overseas players, I suppose it shows how desperate they are to get back into SL.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I've also tried, but it's pointless as he isn't bright enough to understand the non fed rule, so they must have sealed special dispensation for one of their current non fed players so they can have 9 overseas players, I suppose it shows how desperate they are to get back into SL.'"
As you know Moss has dispensation due to the Bradford debacle so that leaves us with 8. I'm not sure how we've managed to get that many but to get Masoe to help our push means I couldn't give a rats ass tbh.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I've also tried, but it's pointless as he isn't bright enough to understand the non fed rule, so they must have got special dispensation for one of their current non fed players so they can have 9 overseas players, I suppose it shows how desperate they are to get back into SL.'"
I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).
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| Quote ="Nothus"I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).'"
I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.
Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12
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| Quote ="DGM"I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.
Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12
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Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it'"
Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.
10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.
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| Quote ="DGM"I've explained all this to you before Ronnie. Passports and where you're born don't matter anymore, it's whether they're classed as Federation (RLEF) or Non-Federation trained. You're allowed 7 of the latter. Of course, the RFL can also grant special dispensation.'"
And who is Ronnie, my name is James.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).'"
Mitch Clark was born in Britain, therefore holds a British passport so does not count on the quota.
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| Quote ="DGM"Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.
10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.'"
Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!
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