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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"And deserved .
It was interesting how he was used. Coming out of their own 20 he was at acting half for the first 2 or 3 tackled to give friend a rest. NZ player with 3 halves Johnson floating with Sam on the right and Townsend on the left. There is certainly a case to move him to 6 once Locke is fit.'"
He's always been a 6 for me.
We got away with playing him at 1 because the standard of Super League isn't great (bar 3 or 4 teams). I was never comfortable with Tomkins under the high ball - not when pressured.
He was a revelation playing there under the Maguire/Wane system because the whole attack was designed around getting the ball to him in space - and obviously he's a deadly open field runner. His passing/short kicking game is good enough for him to play 6 though and he'd frighten the life out of most teams playing there.
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| He played well against Melbourne his best performance so far, that I have seen.
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| funny thing is a lot of people said he wouldn't be as good in attack but i think he is better this season in the NRL than he was for Wigan last year. must be a dream to be a or winger outside of him.
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| Quote ="dubairl"funny thing is a lot of people said he wouldn't be as good in attack but i think he is better this season in the NRL than he was for Wigan last year. must be a dream to be a Centre or winger outside of him.'"
Eh? Did you watch any Wigan games last year? He had scored 20 tries even before the start of May. Nevermind all those he put on a plate for Charnley. This year he has 4(?) tries and only a couple of assists.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Eh? Did you watch any Wigan games last year? He had scored 20 tries even before the start of May. Nevermind all those he put on a plate for Charnley. This year he has 4(?) tries and only a couple of assists.'"
of course i watched him as much as possible, but he wasn't the same defence ripping player he was in the MOS season. This year against better teams and he got 3 assists in one match so its more than a couple. Not many players scored 20 tries as season in the NRL. My point being is he isn't struggling just like he didn't in super league.
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| Quote ="dubairl"of course i watched him as much as possible, but he wasn't the same defence ripping player he was in the MOS season. This year against better teams and he got 3 assists in one match so its more than a couple. Not many players scored 20 tries as season in the NRL. My point being is he isn't struggling just like he didn't in super league.'"
Sam Tomkins' reputation as being overrated and overpaid, held by some on the RL fans' forums, is a product of ignorance and resentment. Sam Tomkins is one of the best full backs in the world.
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| The Sam debate continues, but who wouldn't want him in the their SL team.
I'd love to have him back in a Wigan shirt, he is worth the enterance fee alone sometimes.
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| There is just that many quality players in the NRL that make Tomkins look more ordinary over there. Fullbacks alone, Inglish, Slater, Hayne, Dugan, Stewart and Barba would all make a mockery of Super League, just like Tomkins has done over the last few years.
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| Locke fit move to 1
Tomkins plays 6
Johnson 7
Both half backs have a running and kicking game, frightening really.
Plus internationally we have a Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Locke fit move to 1
Tomkins plays 6
Johnson 7
Both half backs have a running and kicking game, frightening really.
Plus internationally we have a Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1'"
I hope they do that. I'm against picking Sam at 6 for England unless he is playing for his club there. I think it is his best position. Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1 looks good foe England imo
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I hope they do that. I'm against picking Sam at 6 for England unless he is playing for his club there. I think it is his best position. Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1 looks good foe England imo'"
I will be very surprised if Sam Tomkins is selected in the halves for the Warriors. They already have an in form Tommy Leuluai and Chad Townsend covering the five eighth spot, so they would be silly to shift Sam Tomkins there.
Kevin Locke is too good not to be playing in the NRL. If he is not being selected for the Warriors he should look elsewhere. North Queensland would be well advised to bid for him. He is a much better player than any full back currently on their books, including the injured Lachlan Coote.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I
Kevin Locke is too good not to be playing in the NRL. If he is not being selected for the Warriors he should look elsewhere. North Queensland would be well advised to bid for him. He is a much better player than anyone currently on their books, including the injured Lachlan Coote.'"
Not wanting to jinx anything, but being reported as a done deal to Salford. To save everyone the bother: "Waaahhhhh, salary cap, he'll get bored and walk away, attendances, Locke's not even that good anyway etc. etc."
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| Quote ="stouffer"Not wanting to jinx anything, but being reported as a done deal to Salford. To save everyone the bother: "Waaahhhhh, salary cap, he'll get bored and walk away, attendances, Locke's not even that good anyway etc. etc."'"
that would be an excellent signing for salford.sooner or later some of these big names from NRL are going to start taking the Doctors cash.this would be a good start.
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| Quote ="stouffer"Not wanting to jinx anything, but being reported as a done deal to Salford. To save everyone the bother: "Waaahhhhh, salary cap, he'll get bored and walk away, attendances, Locke's not even that good anyway etc. etc."'"
What is your source?
If Locke comes to Salford this year he will guarantee them a playoff position. It will then also be delightful to watch Salford play Wigan, with those teams then having the two most dazzling full backs in Super League.
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If Locke comes to Salford this year he will guarantee them a playoff position. It will then also be delightful to watch Salford play Wigan, with those teams then having the two most dazzling full backs in Super League.'"
Little more than rugbyleagueweek.com.au/locke-salford/ and a seemingly well informed Kiwi poster on the Turkey at the moment. I fully expect to look like an idiot when he signs a new contract at the Warriors.
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If Locke comes to Salford this year he will guarantee them a playoff position. It will then also be delightful to watch Salford play Wigan, with those teams then having the two most dazzling full backs in Super League.'"
Little more than rugbyleagueweek.com.au/locke-salford/ and a seemingly well informed Kiwi poster on the Turkey at the moment. I fully expect to look like an idiot when he signs a new contract at the Warriors.
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| Sam Tomkins had an excellent game last night, in a resurgent New Zealand Warriors team, as they thrashed Canberra Raiders 54-12.
He was not the star of the match: that honour was shared between Konrad "Hurricane" Hurrell and Shaun "Magic" Johnson. However Sam scored a try and was instrumental in assisting two others.
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| Sam Tomkins maturity as a player is really rubbing off on the flamboyant warriors players. They are starting to play structured and its paying off. Those flick ons was immense and he did it earlier in another game. He did it on the right hand side and then the left quality.
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| Mind you the Raiders are languishing third from the bottom.
Hardly a big Scalp.
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| Quote ="Buggo"Mind you the Raiders are languishing third from the bottom.
Hardly a big Scalp.'"
I would suggest bigger than anything SL has to offer at the moment.
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| Quote ="Buggo"Mind you the Raiders are languishing third from the bottom.
Hardly a big Scalp.'"
I get your point but he hasn't only done it against the raiders.
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| Sam Tomkins is probably, based on form, equal No 6 full back in the NRL, out of 16:
1. Inglis
2. Slater
3. Hayne
4. Stewart
5. Dugan
6. Milford
6. Tomkins
6, Tedesco
6. Mead
10. Moylan
10. Barba
12. Perrett
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| That's not too far out tbh. Slater has been in better form and Barba isn't the threat he was. There's certainly a lot of depth there. The replacements at Wests and Manly have been pretty handy too.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I get your point but he hasn't only done it against the raiders.'"
CORRECT...he did it against the 8th placed Tigers too
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| Quote ="gutterfax"CORRECT...he did it against the 8th placed Tigers too'"
He did it against the Tigers when they were higher than 8th placed!
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He did it against the Tigers when they were higher than 8th placed!
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indeed......I believe that they were level with Canberra at the time
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