Judging by the amount of tripe posted on here by certain barrow fans, they cant get enough of slating us, just because we are on the up and looking good as a club. Yes, we are widnes fans, and our club has been run exceptionally well and we are blatantly the best overall prospect from the championship. But as a barrow fan you cant do anything about that but bitch about us like many of you have done for the majority of the past 3 years. so you can slate us all you want but its irrelevant and we couldnt care less.

I agree with what you say about the salary cap about the Championship. I think alot of it should be done to a percentage of turnover to dictate what salary cap you should have. If your club is ready for SL because it is a better business than other clubs then you will be able to spend more on your team therefore will still have to perform well on the field and also improve your club. I think this would be a better balance of improving your club and still being competitive on the field.

Although we have been cheating for the last 4 or so years because we decided to put a muppet with an massive ego as our chairman, the foundation of our 2009 winning team were already playing in NL2 the season before. The Championship player of the year was Andy Ellis he was playing in 2008. Top try scorer james nixon was playing in 2008, and his centre was also playing in 2008. All 3 of these were playing in 2008 and were the main reason we won the league. I think this would also be the case from Championship to SL.

You could talk about P&R and salary cap ect for hours but in the end, the RFL makes the decisions.

I'd say about 10 Barrow fans post on here and even then it rarely happens.

Which is precisely why criticising Widnes is pointless.

Surely on that logic discussing anything on a forum is pointless because in the end no one has a choice on what happens in RL?

Not if logic is used, and a genuine point expressed.

Just whinging, talking utter bollox and then contradicting your own contention, is likely to be met with the scorn it deserves. I can't even see any discernible point to what you have written.

Apparently widnes have 3,700 Stronghold members, which I think means Sseason ticket holders. Quite encouraging considering the season is still 6 months away and they've not made a marquee signing as yet. If they double that they'll nearly reach the target they've set themselves. Nice to see a bit of ambition.

I'd imagine we won't hit more than 5k max. Hopefully we can attract one real big name to whet the appetite though. Unfortunately, there's a lot of negativity around the club at present and I can't see many more fans digging deep into their pockets.

I suppose 5 straight defeats will take a fair bit of wind out of people's sails! Granted the signings aren't exactly mind blowing but signing the likes of Briscoe, Clarke and Hanbury is probably about the best a promoted team can hope for being realistic.

Wouldn't surprise me to see widnes pick up one of the off contract NRL stars for next season - a big name would help.

It's "Factory at Widnes" by Lowry! Currently in New Zealand.

I think.

Cheers. When i win the lottery i'll buy the original, for the time being i'll see if there's any prints available.

Just go to Widnes and take a photo. Nothing has changed.

Quote ="littlerich"Just go to Widnes and take a photo. Nothing has changed.'" Like this? www.flickr.com/photos/maycontain ... 248965120/ The Lowry painting went to NZ not long after it was painted and has been there ever since.

Quote ="littlerich"Just go to Widnes and take a photo. Nothing has changed.'" Like this? www.flickr.com/photos/maycontain ... 248965120/ The Lowry painting went to NZ not long after it was painted and has been there ever since.

Correct Chris.



Now, now Richard, you're only saying this because you know if you tried to take a picture in Allyfax you'd be lynched, tried for witchcraft and burnt at the stake.

Quote ="JonM"Like this? www.flickr.com/photos/maycontain ... 248965120/ The Lowry painting went to NZ not long after it was painted and has been there ever since.'" thats Runcorn.

Quote ="JonM"Like this? www.flickr.com/photos/maycontain ... 248965120/ The Lowry painting went to NZ not long after it was painted and has been there ever since.'" thats Runcorn.

That's unfair. The residents of Halifax no longer believe that taking a picture of someone captures their souls and instead treat modern technology with only a healthy suspicion.

So The Enlightenment era is just snout hitting Yorkshire

We had modern architecture in Halifax before your mum and dad decided to get the test tube out.

Looking forward to playing you guys at the Halton Stadium next season Chris, it's almost an extra home game for me nowadays, being just over the bridge! In fact I could probably walk it (if I wasn't a lazy fat scrote

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I'm looking forward to being in super league but not our games against wire next year! I've got a feeling they will feel much longer than 80 minutes they way you're playing!

Nothing lasts forever, a few players out, a few players in, could upset the balance of the team... don't write yourselves off before a ball's even been kicked!

Yes but you're used to that with playing Leigh Chris

I do not post as often on these sites, as the swipes at people bore me to death now.I feel on the Off Field and criteria we deserve the licence, but as a fan i wish we played better.Been depressing watching the tonkings against Leigh and Fev.I am sure the uncertainity of players wanting to play full time, due to having jobs, or know not good enough for the top flight has not helped.I have had ago at the coaching set up, but i hope it improves with a settled squad.If after 6 months Betts is not getting results the fans will show their displeasure, and i think Ste O Connor will tell him.Hopefully he can do a Alex Ferguson, and i do not mind losing as long as see alot of effort from my team.

I dont look forward to those games right now either!