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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"As I'm sure the exact comment can't be posted due to legal reasons I'll give you a snippet. It inolved the P*** C*** taxi driver owing Ben £100 as he had his wallet.
So it was in fact a direct attack on a person who has done nothing wrong. He didn't steal the wallet or attempt to acquire the wallet in any way, Ben still had it himself.
Where would you draw the line? A crime is not committed until it is carried through an a person? So if somebody said to you, I'm going to rob your house tonight, would you want nothing to be done until your possessions had been taken? Terrorists can't be apprehended until they have blown something up? Potential murderers and rapists must be left to it until they commit a crime? People carrying weapons such as knives, bats and guns are okay until they use the weapon?'" WTF are you talking about? Cockayne didn't threaten to commit any sort of crime. He didn't threaten the taxi driver in any way or make any mention of the taxi driver's name or identity. He didn't even falsely accuse him of stealing his wallet, not that this would be a crime either. As far as I can see, the comment appeared to be a light hearted one. Not that I am trying to defend this, it was stupid but it wasn't malicious in any way and as far as I can see the only reason you are persecuting Cockayne as a racist is because of his reputation in other areas, which IMO is just as bad as any 'racism' Cockayne has carried out here.
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| Not the first RL player to be caught out on the internet is he and he won't be the last. The trouble is as I keep stating the internet is far too public, too many people have access to it these days. BC has had problems in the past and he has paid for them, I hear these sort of comments every day and far worse.
If it was indeed him, fine him, donate it to a worthy charity and move on, it really is not worth getting hot under the collar about.
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| Quote ="headhunter"WTF are you talking about? Cockayne didn't threaten to commit any sort of crime. He didn't threaten the taxi driver in any way or make any mention of the taxi driver's name or identity. He didn't even falsely accuse him of stealing his wallet, not that this would be a crime either. As far as I can see, the comment appeared to be a light hearted one. Not that I am trying to defend this, it was stupid but it wasn't malicious in any way and as far as I can see the only reason you are persecuting Cockayne as a racist is because of his reputation in other areas, which IMO is just as bad as any 'racism' Cockayne has carried out here.'"
I've never previously had any problem with Cockayne at all, I didn't like him but I didn't dislike him, yes his assault in 2009 was stupid but who hasn't been in a fight at some point in their life.
I never said he threatened the taxi driver I was using them as examples of what would happen if people weren't allowed to be reprimanded for their words as well as their actions. The incitement of racial hatred (which includes racist comments) is a crime, however you want to dress it up. The police investigation will end up with a slap on the wrist and he may or may not lose his job.
The point I am making is you are not allowed to just go round making such comments as they are illegal. You can be arrested for just swearing as a breach of the public peace. The combination of both his words used makes this a problem. If he had just used the word P*** then he may of got away with it. As it is he called him a P*** C*** which makes it racially offensive.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Briscoe's out long term, so I don't expect HKR to sack him. =#FF0000Hopefully Stevo won't lick his ass as per usual on Friday.'"
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| It's abut time this moron was booted out of the game.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I've never previously had any problem with Cockayne at all, I didn't like him but I didn't dislike him, yes his assault in 2009 was stupid but who hasn't been in a fight at some point in their life.
I never said he threatened the taxi driver I was using them as examples of what would happen if people weren't allowed to be reprimanded for their words as well as their actions. The incitement of racial hatred (which includes racist comments) is a crime, however you want to dress it up. The police investigation will end up with a slap on the wrist and he may or may not lose his job.
The point I am making is you are not allowed to just go round making such comments as they are illegal. You can be arrested for just swearing as a breach of the public peace. The combination of both his words used makes this a problem. If he had just used the word P*** then he may of got away with it. As it is he called him a P*** C*** which makes it racially offensive.'" Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
Oh of course, I'm perhaps not putting myself across clear. If it was said by a random Joe (you or me) from the general public it would go without a fluttered eye lid. It's the fact that he is in a professional occupation where he could be seen as a role model to young kids that makes the situation worse. Unfortunately, racism is apparent in most places you look in day to day life, but the 'professional' sports stars will be held accountable for their actions if they do something like this in the public domain.
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| Humberside Police now investigating the matter.
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| to$$er!!
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| Quote ="headhunter"Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
I think we are far enough beyond 1970 to assume that even using the P word is socially unacceptable. He should be sacked by Hull KR and banned by the RFL.
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| Isnt it about time this scumbag was banned from Rugby League for life.....He is the only player I watch in RL who I hope someone gives a serious injury.
Lower than low - anyone who saw the CCTV recording of his sustained and unprovoked attack which resulted in his criminal record could see that. (what a joke our criminal courts are that he didnt do time inside!!)
People like this run our game down, hes not even that good but is just a dirty little hull scrubber IMO and the sooner his RL career is over the better!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I think we are far enough beyond 1970 to assume that even using the P word is socially unacceptable. He should be sacked by Hull KR and banned by the RFL.'"
Strange you say that, coming from Hull we don't have a large Asian community so I had always assumed the general attitude in places like Bradford, Leeds and the like would be one of 'multi culturism' and 'racial harmony', but since I have been involved in many areas where their are large Asian communities its clear that its NOT the case. I deal with builders who are mainly in the social housing sector and it is quite suprising what the attitudes towards Asians (and the language used) is on these sites. I regularly hear the managers and workforce bemoaning the money being spent on 'Effin Paki's' while 'nowt gets spent on white people', in fact its often seems that the image of multi culturalism and harmony is just something put out by politicians and those with a vested interest in it. If anything, it seems in the 'real world' the P word as you call it, is in fact a very common occurence.
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Isnt it about time this scumbag was banned from Rugby League for life.....He is the only player I watch in RL who I hope someone gives a serious injury.
Lower than low - anyone who saw the CCTV recording of his sustained and unprovoked attack which resulted in his criminal record could see that. (what a joke our criminal courts are that he didnt do time inside!!)
People like this run our game down, hes not even that good but is just a dirty little hull scrubber IMO and the sooner his RL career is over the better!'"
Normanton, actually but don't let a fact spoil your adolescent rant.
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"i agree! depending upon how deep you actually want to go it involves equal measures of degree level biology, chemistry and Nutrition before you even get to the exercise science itself. not to mention if not degree level then certainly advanced level mathmatics, and in many cases advanced diplomas in various sports related disciplines also.'"
Damn!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Damn!
I was saving all that up for my reply.'"
As I have a degree in Sports Science I can confirm that it is indeed a highly scientific subject. Biomechanics alone is a very technical area.
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| Oh and C0ckhead is pond scum but no doubt he will get a rousing rendition of "Charlie Charlie" from the Rovers fans during the derby
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| Quote ="headhunter"Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
it may not be racial hatred but it is still disgusting that he thinks it is okay to make them comments to a friend. He is a racist and I hope Hull KR throw the book at him!
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| Quote ="headhunter"But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
Pleased I don't live anywhere near any of your streets.Even soccer took it more seriously,years ago.
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1079236/Wenger-offers-olive-branch-Aragones-racism-row-Gunners-travel-Istanbul.htmlIt Was Spain Where They Were Racially Offensive To English Players[/url
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| Quote ="Hutchie"www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=148285045190289&set=a.148284308523696.24292.138625686156225&type=1&theater'"
Interesting flicking through that album
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| Quote ="Hutchie"www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=148285045190289&set=a.148284308523696.24292.138625686156225&type=1&theater'"
To be fair to the racist lad, I doubt they mentioned they'd be publishing that picture on an EDL facebook page when they asked for a photo.
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| Quote ="rover49"Stupid, ill thought out and offensive, but as someone said, is it enough to lose someone their livelihood.'"
I'll tell you this - if anybody who works for me wrote that in the public domain then they would lose their livelihood
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Interesting flicking through that album
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista""EDL Hull - No more mosques" Unbelievable.'"
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| Quote ="Hutchie"www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=148285045190289&set=a.148284308523696.24292.138625686156225&type=1&theater'" Your point is?
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