seeing as the teams are progressing "to plan" it must have been the intention to have NZ v Eng up first all along so hardly likely to be changed now

BBC1 at 13:30, then BBC2 for the 3:30 game.

BBC1 goes to Final Score at around 4pm, so makes sense for the England game to be the earlier one.

Id prefer to have England first, the more sober I am for it the better. I can never concentrate for the 2nd game of a double header. Magic weekend's a nightmare after Catalan v London's done.

I need England first. On a train back to Manchester at 7.15pm from Euston and don't fancy the post match rush after an England game.

Truth be told, I thought that England being on first at Cardiff worked really well.

Everyone was in for the England game (although granted, the opening ceremony would have got people in) and Wales and Italy were on almost straight away - which kept people in the ground for the most part.

I think a similar structure at Wembley would actually get more people sticking around for Australia's game than if they were on first.

A lot will depend on the result I suppose as to how well it will work. If Engkand win the place will be buzzing and that atmosphere should translate to the second game. If we get beat then it could be very flat and you'll see a few people heading for the exits.

I suspect we will see a crowd of 80k-90k for the double header....the worry is the 2 comments above,......getting out of Wembley to a mainline train station will require people to leave early and if England lose, then I can see a heavy drift towards the exits.

Did they put in a special early exit turnstile for Wigan fans when they built the new Wembley?

I've been there that much in the past couple of years watching Wigan's sporting sides that I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to cater to the towns needs. Although saying that we haven't had any reason to leave until a good 30-45 mins after the full time whistle/hooter anyway



In your experience how long do you reckon your looking at to get back to Euston after a big game? The second game should be finished for 5.15pm ish which gives me around 2 hours to make my train at Euston.

Getting out of Wembley is pretty easy...it then depends on the trains, tubes and queues for them. If it were me, I'd head for Wembley Stadium Station, catch a train to Marylebone and walk the 1.5 miles to Euston. Train Journey is 35 minutes, walk is 10 minutes and I would leave myself 40minutes from seat at stadium to getting on a train....best to maybe head for the gate at 5.15pm sharp to make sure and allow for any mishaps. I'd also recommend you use that route to get to the ground so you know where you're heading......

Thanks for the info mate, much appreciated.

Indeed a France v Scotland semi would really p**s on his chips

Annoying as hell for me, cause i'll miss it all cause of the Merseyside Derby! Psht!

If you left at 5.30pm and just queued on Wembley Walk for the tube I reckon you'd make Euston for 7 - It's not too far at all really.

F*ck Final Score!

You will get to euston easy and should have time to spare. Tube from Wembley Park on the metropolitan either get off a euston square (if it stops) or kings cross where there is a 10 minute walk and if it is busy faster than getting the tube from kings cross to euston. You also go past a couple of decent pubs one of which is outside euston.

Cheers mate. Good to have some options. We'll just be sharpish on the final whistle of the second game.

And another thing, why are the games being marketed as 'the big hit' surely 'world cup semi final' should sound significant enough?

So true. A game you arent really interested in, with your mates away for a weekend pi55up, always results in the following games being increasingly hard to follow

RU have had success with giving events a name, IIIRC the guy behind the marketing for the Semi's is the same guy that does marketing for RU's Wembley games.

he's also the CEO of the Melbourne Storm now too after taking Harlequins from 3k to 15k averages.

You think you can walk 1.5 miles in 10 minutes?

That is 6.66 minutes per mile! I beg to inform you that such a feat requires Olympic quality marathon level [irunning[/i, not [iwalking[/i! Walking briskly 1.5 miles in 30 minutes would still be a perspiration inducing aerobic achievement.

I walk forwards at a brisk pace....kind of like the pace the French Troops did backwards in 1914 and again in 1939.

the irony of your choice of smiley is not lost on me. Surely the one below would have been better suited to your gallic outburst!