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| Quote ="Tricky2309"So inept management then?'"
Have you ever tried it ?
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| Sad day, I think this is the end of their Super league hopes however I hope someone takes them on with the intention of building them up again from the ground up, although you'd have to say if they go down they're probably behind clubs like Halifax and Leigh for a franchise again.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Have you ever tried it ?'"
What has that got to do with it. Match outgoings with income - the fact we consistently failed to do so and there are question marks over proceeds from the sale of the ground are down to bad management.
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| Quote ="LewisJ23"Yeh but Leeds is huge! A huge city with one of the best rugby teams and rightly so. Leeds also took advantage of Leeds United's misfortunes as I know plenty of people that used to come watch Leeds United but once we got relegated didn't bother to go anymore and turned their attention towards Leeds Rhinos...'"
Given that Leeds United has traditionally tended to get its fan base from South Leeds and the surrounding area, rather than North Leeds, Wakefield should arguably have been a bigger beneficiary of Leeds United's problems. You see a lot more LUFC shirts at Belle Vue and the Jungle than you do at Headingley.
The Rhinos were still getting good crowds when United were in the Champions League.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"What has that got to do with it. Match outgoings with income - the fact we consistently failed to do so and there are question marks over proceeds from the sale of the ground are down to bad management.'"
Match outgoings with income , get relegated , simple as
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| Quote ="Starbug"Match outgoings with income , get relegated , simple as'"
Only if you dont increase income.
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| Quote ="Code13"It will be dire to see Wakefield fall, but it happened to Fax and RL continued, as did Fax
The simple sad truth is Wakey are in a bed of their own making. Maybe when they first came into Super League they should have sorted out their ground instead of breaching the salary cap.'"
Jeez, that 2001 season must still be hurting!
They didn’t / never have had enough money to put a competitive team on the park & refurbish an antiquated stadium.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Only if you dont increase income.'"
They didn't
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| Quote ="Starbug"They didn't'"
which is where the management failed.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"which is where the management failed.'"
Lots of managements fail , it doesn't make them inept or crooked , if you are suggesting that any business that doesn't match income with outgoings is a failure then 90 percent of professional sports clubs are also failures , including your much loved Leeds United , they were inept ' big style ' , and yet you have argued it was the fault of relegation in the past
I have no wish to get into some crazy argument about it , if you do , then away you go
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| I feel for the fans of this famous club.
It's such a shame that a club such as Wakefield could be on the point of going t1t5 up.
I hope they manage to pull through this and come back stronger than ever.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Lots of managements fail , it doesn't make them inept or crooked , if you are suggesting that any business that doesn't match income with outgoings is a failure then 90 percent of professional sports clubs are also failures , including your much loved Leeds United , they were inept ' big style ' , and yet you have argued it was the fault of relegation in the past
I have no wish to get into some crazy argument about it , if you do , then away you go'"
many fail for many reasons, if the underlying reason is that you cant sell a product that is being sold to thousands of people by someone else in the city down the road, then it is likely that the blame lies with your attempts. It isnt necessarily crooked or inept, but it is a failure. And in this case a certain level of ineptitude.
But you have argued against your own point Quote ="Starbug"Your ills are down to not having enough money to pay the wages and bills , quite simply if you had only spent the money earned you would have been relegated to the Championship probably years ago , instead you have had SL to watch'"
therefore Wakefield had to spend more than they had, not on infrastructure or capital investment that would benefit them moving forward, but on transient playing staff just to survive. If Wakefield are struggling to sell this product, they are going to struggle to sell an inferior one. There is 330k people who live in Wakefield, thaat is a huge market for them. Some long term planning, a bit of capital investment and a quality marketeer and there is no reason Wakefield cant be one of the biggest clubs in the country. If they didnt have those things, or plans to get them, then it was inept to attempt it.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Infact the buyers may decide it's better to share a stadium at Glasshoughton.'"
They may or what about Sheffield instead.
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| "And the Yorkshire club, one of the founder members of the game in 1895, will be hoping that this latest development will not do irreparable damage to their bid to land a new Super League licence in July."
this shows how inept the people running the club are if they really believe that statement
widnes last franchise bid was killed by similar financial instability and they have a better stadium and a rich sugar daddy, wakey have neither
if this happened a few months ago id just have advanced the franchise decisions to apply from this year, with a 4 year license vs 3
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"That was three years ago, this is now. A cashed up owner in charge of Trinity and they become a different proposition as any club would. The RFL like their millionaire's.'"
They also like profitable, self-sufficient clubs that aren't relying on an owner, such as ourselves.
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| Thank you to all of those who have expressed good wishes towards our club - it is much appreciated.
To those who prefer to pick over the bones - be careful, because this Cat ain't quite dead yet!
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Same could be said of Probiz sponsoring Cas its not a big club or even a mediocre one so why should they throw money at a club like that?'"
There's a difference - Probiz are a SPONSOR. They're not likely to be pumping money in every season until the club is self-sufficient. They signed a one-year deal to sponsor our shirts with a view to extending it further after. They don't have to commit to it.
However, if you peel back the proverbial onion that is Cas, the potential of the club is quite significant and that's probably why they want to invest.
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| Quote ="Fully"They also like profitable, self-sufficient clubs that aren't relying on an owner, such as ourselves.'"
They also like non profitable , non self sufficient clubs that do rely on an owner , such as Huddersfield,Quins,Salford,Saints,HKR,Crusaders and possibly Warrington
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| Quote ="Fully"They also like profitable, self-sufficient clubs that aren't relying on an owner, such as ourselves.'"
Well we will be ok if the rumours are true cos we will have three backers, strength in numbers and all that
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| shame but they built there super league application on lies and promises and its come back to haunt them i think this is the final nail in the coffin of keeping in super league R.I.P wakefields super league hopes
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"shame but they built there super league application on lies and promises and its come back to haunt them i think this is the final nail in the coffin of keeping in super league R.I.P wakefields super league hopes'"
Just wondering where I'm going to sit at the Millenium Stadium for the Hull Vs Hull KR game? Don't want to upset any of the 50,000 strong travelling red and white army do I?
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| Aww is that all you could come up with at least make your digs good ones if your going to have a little sulk
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| Quote ="Starbug"Have you ever tried it ?'"
Starbug trots out this line over and over again; I'm beginning to wonder if he is in fact Ted Richardson or one of his progeny.
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| It's not the end of the world, HKR, Huddersfield and prob Widnes have all gone down and come back stronger.
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"Aww is that all you could come up with at least make your digs good ones if your going to have a little sulk'"
I aren't a Wakie fan mate (Cas) I just think laughing at a team and kicking them while they're down is wrong. You wanna watch what you say in future because it might just come back to bite you in the ar**.
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