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| Quote ="Call Me God"Nope.....you're a bottom 3 club this year who will be thankful that London got promoted and not Toronto. To date, you've beaten Leeds, London, Wakefield and FC.....with only Leeds and London being by more than 1 score. It could well be argued that your win at Wakefield was more to do with the weather than the game......but you won none the less.
HKR, like London and a couple of other sides perform better than expected now and again, but we are bottom half sides who are not challenging for honours, but fighting for survival.........and that is where our sport fails.
Give out 20 licences......central funding dependent on the prior years finishing position......wealthy backers can buy their team "up the table" if they want and strict cap with one marquee allowed.......current 12 + 8 others who are happy to commit to a minimum spend......so let all of Jean's fantasy sides in.....but the reality is that forking out £3 million or more to finish 12th will soon wear thin for the Argyles of this world....'"
Sweeping statement that we are/Will be a bottom 3 club. You fail to acknowledge the 6 props unfit plus Quinlan and Lunt out. Lunt now slowly getting back to fitness.the Saints and Warry away performances were very close despite losing and only the Hudds game we stunk.But only Masoe fit in front row. Greenwood gone for season ..We looked good in attack tonight and scored some nice tries. Are we going to win anything? No.But I don't see us in same bracket as London |
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Wow Printer, you're like a moon landing conspiracy theorist.
I don't think everything Sinfield has done is right at all, but letting BM off the hook is ridiculous. McDermott was flicked because of the general decline over a period of years, including much publicised issues with youth development on his watch.
Suggesting that Hetherington would not have backed the most successful coach in the history of the club to spend more, but decided to start signing new players for 2019 halfway through last season for the benefit of a coach who had did not sign a contract for more than 4 months and before BM even left is X Files territory.
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| Quote ="Trevork52"All this talk about Leeds making the wrong marquee signings and other decisions about players and no mention of a certain Mr Hetherington in all this? He was on today and saying that, although these singings were made before Furner arrived, "He was pleased to have these players available"!!! I have always had the suspicion that Mr H has had much more to do with decisions made than is generally made public! I wonder how long Furner will be here before urgent matters suddenly require his return down under???'"
Of course Hetherington has always had a huge role in what players get signed. It's not like he's some non-sporting director who hasn't a clue about Rugby League, he's an ex-top flight head coach and assistant GB coach. He knows what he's talking about and all the Leeds teams for the last 20 years were built by him, in consultation with his coaches. This isn't a secret. |
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Wow Printer, you're like a moon landing conspiracy theorist.
I don't think everything Sinfield has done is right at all, but letting BM off the hook is ridiculous. McDermott was flicked because of the general decline over a period of years, including much publicised issues with youth development on his watch.
Suggesting that Hetherington would not have backed the most successful coach in the history of the club to spend more, but decided to start signing new players for 2019 halfway through last season for the benefit of a coach who had did not sign a contract for more than 4 months and before BM even left is X Files territory.'"
No it’s not, the proof is there in what signings were made during McDermott’s years especially post Treble. Do you really think he was turning down the chance of a Marquee signing to have Jack Ormondroyd or Anthony Mullally instead.
Previous coaches got big signings like Iestyn Harris and Ali Lautiiti,Jamie Peacock and Danny Buderus. This coach has straight got two marquee signings. NcDermott wasn’t given those types of signings. |
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Only thing to day about last night was at keast we dud not pkay as bad as Hull last week, allthough we were not playing warrington.
Highlight of the game Craig Hall falling over his own feet at Ko
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Hull Kingston Rovers totally outplayed Leeds . Stand out players were Mitch Garbutt and Danny Mc Guire , Weller Hauraki & Taioalo Vai Vai were not at their best .
Jack Walker had a poor game , but the lad is young and needs time , The Leeds fans need to be patient with him and not shatter the lads confidence . Konileti Hurrell and Kallum Watkins were Leeds stand out players .
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| Quote "My Mate Ronnie"Konileti Hurrell and Kallum Watkins were Leeds stand out players .'"
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I would love to know the real reason Garbutt was released by Leeds. He's been brilliant this season and is just what Leeds need.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I would love to know the real reason Garbutt was released by Leeds. He's been brilliant this season and is just what Leeds need.'"
Pure and simply down to making cap space to sign Merrin. We also offered Cuthbertson and Parcell out at the same time so that dismisses the ‘injured last year/attitude’ theories.
3 of our best players in recent seasons, one the best metre making prop in the league, one who lead the offload charts with over 100 and almost double the nearest rival in both 2015 and 2017 and a hooker who made the Dream Team in 2017. You decide to sell one and try to offload the other two (hardly going to get them fighting for the cause this season is it)....just to get one player in. |
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We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.
Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.
Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.'"
Fair assessment but the way the league is right now, bar two teams, we are two wins on the bounce away from mid table. Also played all the big teams away. I have no fears about relegation but the form is alarming and the defence especially goal line needs serious attention but that can be fixed. |
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| Quote ="My Mate Ronnie"Jack Walker had a poor game , but the lad is young and needs time , The Leeds fans need to be patient with him and not shatter the lads confidence.'"
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Fair assessment but the way the league is right now, bar two teams, we are two wins on the bounce away from mid table. Also played all the big teams away. I have no fears about relegation but the form is alarming and the defence especially goal line needs serious attention but that can be fixed.'" due to the poor start youve had leeds will be mid to lower end of the table defo wont go down at the moment youll be in the pack with about 8 teams, will still be hard to beat at headingley kr played pretty well first half, hurrells fitness is vital though |
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| Quote ="rover 2000"due to the poor start youve had leeds will be mid to lower end of the table defo wont go down at the moment youll be in the pack with about 8 teams, will still be hard to beat at headingley kr played pretty well first half, hurrells fitness is vital though'"
That is one thing in Leeds favour for the remainder of the season, we have played a large chunk away from home and some of them the toughest like Saints and Warrington. If you look at Leeds’ remaining fixture list it’s pretty favourable compared to most because of the start we had with the cluster of away games, 6 of our last 8 games are at home. Funnily enough the two away games in that run are London and Hudds who could be our rivals in the mix at the bottom.
So far Leeds have played 3 at home 7 away. So whilst they do need to play much better the fixture list we’ve had so far has been quite unbalanced and will work a bit back in our favour as the season goes on. |
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"That is one thing in Leeds favour for the remainder of the season, we have played a large chunk away from home and some of them the toughest like Saints and Warrington. If you look at Leeds’ remaining fixture list it’s pretty favourable compared to most because of the start we had with the cluster of away games, 6 of our last 8 games are at home. Funnily enough the two away games in that run are London and Hudds who could be our rivals in the mix at the bottom.
So far Leeds have played 3 at home 7 away. So whilst they do need to play much better the fixture list we’ve had so far has been quite unbalanced and will work a bit back in our favour as the season goes on.'"
Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.
Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.'"
You watched the game right? The one where practically every KR try came off the back of a poor refereeing decision?
Last week Leeds were never behind in the whole match, so not entirely sure how it's possible for Cas to have thrown it away.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
You've 3 must win games between now and May......if you don't win at least one of them, then I see you being right in the mix and going on the performance v a pretty average HKR, I really don't see that happening.'"
That's just not true though is it?
We were better than Cas for the vast majority of the match and were worthy winners. We were very unlucky against Saints who we played well against, and like against Wigan and London some very questionable decisions made the difference results wise.
We're not putting together anything like 80minutes, and at times we're embarrassingly bad, but in patches we were good against Saints, Wigan and Cas and we looked great against Salford.
You don't need to tell Leeds fans that we're in a bad position and not playing very well, but at least get a vague relationship with the reality of the season so far. |
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
You've 3 must win games between now and May......if you don't win at least one of them, then I see you being right in the mix and going on the performance v a pretty average HKR, I really don't see that happening.'"
Don’t get me wrong, like I said Leeds need to be much better but when factoring in end of season predictions you can’t discount Leeds’ fixtures and whilst we are 1 from 3 at home, any team stands a better chance of picking up points at home rather than away.
As it stands Leeds have left 11 home games, 7 away and 1 Magic Weekend vs London.so you do have to recognise that even if YOU don’t want to as a London fan. It’s a significant difference to teams that have played the same amount of home to away games: |
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"That's just not true though is it?
We were better than Cas for the vast majority of the match and were worthy winners. We were very unlucky against Saints who we played well against, and like against Wigan and London some very questionable decisions made the difference results wise. '"
Sorry buddy.......but the bit in Bold shows that you're the one detached from reality.......IT'S A CONSPIRACY.......   
You have the 3rd worst +/- in the league....is that coz the refs wouldn't give you the decisions a big club like yours deserve......
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"You watched the game right? The one where practically every KR try came off the back of a poor refereeing decision?
Last week Leeds were never behind in the whole match, so not entirely sure how it's possible for Cas to have thrown it away.
We're awful at the moment, that's true, but don't go making stuff up, there's no need. Just focus on the missed tackles and lack of attacking structure and it won't make you seem so petty.'"
Give over all our tries came from questionable ref decisions unlike yours obviously like the knock on forward pass etc the fact is your goal line defence was awful that lost you the match and the Cas game yeah you might have been in control but in fact if it hadn’t been for Mcshanes brain fart you’d have lost that also personally you’ll be nowhere near relegation as the league is pretty tight and you have an advantage with the home games you have |
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We will be near relegation as we are certs for the bottom 2 , the game at London will be vital (and we are not great on plastic) . The hope then is London do not pick up too many more points . If you do not believe me then tell me who else are we going to beat London at Magic apart
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"We will be near relegation as we are certs for the bottom 2 , the game at London will be vital (and we are not great on plastic) . The hope then is London do not pick up too many more points . If you do not believe me then tell me who else are we going to beat London at Magic apart'"
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Donno not happy.
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STUNNED Leeds Rhinos back-row James Donaldson has questioned his own side’s desire to defend after their “shocking” loss at Hull KR.Leeds remain bottom of Super League following Thursday’s shambolic 45-26 defeat at KCOM Craven Park.
Konrad Hurrell scored four tries but the big-spending visitors - who have now lost eight of their 10 games so far - were consistently unable to protect their own line given some feeble tackling. “It is just shocking,” said Donaldson. “We started the game shocking and we just seemed to lose momentum straight away.“We didn't want to dig in, dig our heels in and work hard for each other and I think it got us. It's defence. We can score points - you can see that - but every time our attitude in defence is just shocking.”Asked how do you put your finger on why that is, the 27-year-old replied: “It's attitude. “Everything is just attitude. Your attitude to defence. Your attitude to attack.“Everyone wants to score the tries but do you want to put the work in and do the defence?”
Leeds thought they had turned their season around after a Golden Point extra-time win against Castleford Tigers the previous week ended a five-game losing sequence.But after Thursday’s embarrassing show, Donaldson conceded: “It's just ruined it all really.“We'd been working hard to start building every week and then to come up with that, you know, it is shocking.“We started off the second half a bit better but the back end it all caught up with us.”
“Yeah, I felt I made a difference when I came on in the middle (loose forward),” he said.“And then obviously someone got injured and I went to back-row. I don't think I was as effective there.“I was enjoying myself in the middle at the time but I’ve got to look at my own game as well and see where I can improve.” |
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STUNNED Leeds Rhinos back-row James Donaldson has questioned his own side’s desire to defend after their “shocking” loss at Hull KR.Leeds remain bottom of Super League following Thursday’s shambolic 45-26 defeat at KCOM Craven Park.
Konrad Hurrell scored four tries but the big-spending visitors - who have now lost eight of their 10 games so far - were consistently unable to protect their own line given some feeble tackling. “It is just shocking,” said Donaldson. “We started the game shocking and we just seemed to lose momentum straight away.“We didn't want to dig in, dig our heels in and work hard for each other and I think it got us. It's defence. We can score points - you can see that - but every time our attitude in defence is just shocking.”Asked how do you put your finger on why that is, the 27-year-old replied: “It's attitude. “Everything is just attitude. Your attitude to defence. Your attitude to attack.“Everyone wants to score the tries but do you want to put the work in and do the defence?”
Leeds thought they had turned their season around after a Golden Point extra-time win against Castleford Tigers the previous week ended a five-game losing sequence.But after Thursday’s embarrassing show, Donaldson conceded: “It's just ruined it all really.“We'd been working hard to start building every week and then to come up with that, you know, it is shocking.“We started off the second half a bit better but the back end it all caught up with us.”
“Yeah, I felt I made a difference when I came on in the middle (loose forward),” he said.“And then obviously someone got injured and I went to back-row. I don't think I was as effective there.“I was enjoying myself in the middle at the time but I’ve got to look at my own game as well and see where I can improve.” | |
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