Grix
Caton-Brown/Johnstone
Lyne
Tupou
Jones-Bishop
Miller
Finn
England
Randell
Fifita
Ashurst
Horo
Arona

Wood
Pauli Pauli
Huby
Hirst

Barba
Makinson Morgan Percival Grace
Lomax Richardson
Douglas Roby Thompson
Taia Peyroux
Knowles

Fages Wilkin Amor Walmsley

With Swift, Smith, LMS and Bentley actually being the key. Over the last few years there's been too clear divide in the squad between first choice and "cover", and the clear out (Owens, Richards et al) shows that Holbrook isn't interested in that, which is the biggest positive of all.

Feel really positive going into next season as a Saints fan, much more so than last year. Only time will tell of course.

To be brutally honest anywhere outside of bottom 4 is the first aim. In the 2 previous seasons the LLS winners have ended up bottom 4 the following season, so to break that trend is OK by me. I’m not overly convinced by our recruitment, but DP seems to be able to make the sum greater than its parts, so who knows?

I think that should be the aim for every single club. First 8 games or so you should be hoping for at least 4 wins or more otherwise a bit of nerves and lack of confidence could set into any team.

I see that Leeds' rivals have realised the only way to stop us winning SL is to wipe out our training ground and a fire was deliberately started there today but doesn't seem to have caused any serious damage......the lengths our rivals will go to

Thought you'd stuck Kirmond on the bench tbh, looking back you'd mentioned both. Anyway agree with the points about Batch, if he stays injury free he could well be a regular in the 17 & be in the running for YPY.

Hull will miss Ellis and Fonua (although I have a good feeling about Farmino)

I'd say our 17 is slightly weaker,but our squad is stronger, really have to try and finish in the top 2 this year and get a home semi, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to not do as well in the cup.

Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it

Regards

King James

To be fair if a new coach "making the right noises" meant anything then just about every new coach would succeed at their new club.

Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts
=6th of the Hull forwards in metres made
4th of the forwards in av.metres/carry
8th of the forwards in Try assists

10th in tackles made
=4th worst in tackles missed (as a %)
2nd in errors (his best stat by a mile)
Chris Green was his equal in attack/defence, I stand by my statement that Ellis was ineffective in attack last 2 years.

Finished 5th a few years ago, having beaten Hull in the play-offs.

Cheated by Ashley Klown at Wigan the following game.

So twice in 49 years ya tool!

Chris Green as good as Gareth Ellis? Interesting.

Not that he'd know, he's an amateur WUM. We've finished 5th in 2009 and don't forget 6th in 2004

What makes his post even funnier his Uncle Rico was replying to a Salford fan.

1971 - 5th Place
1972 - 5th Place
1981 - 4th Place
1992 - 6th Place
2004 - 6th Place
2009 - 5th Place
2017 - 6th Place

Sorry but Johnstone battling it out with MCB seriously.

The battle is between BJB and MCB end of

Just tells me you don't watch the game, just look at the stats.

Ellis was in the top 10 for MOS nominations again this year (Top 3 the year before), despite missing a fair few games.

But what do the players and coaches know?

whichever team has the least injuries will win the LLS.

Rubbish, injures are part of it, but I’d say there are 5 clubs in with a chance of lifting the trophy.

if a team gets 9, 10 players out for a period of time ... which happens, they wont win the league

and without wishing to derail the thread further, for clarity I didn't say our new coach would succeed because he's "making the right noises" all I asked was on what basis the poster thought that he wouldn't see the season out?

That’s true, but it’s not the same as the team with the least number winning.

Bradford won super league years ago on the back of probably the worst injury list ever seen

Regards

King James

Yes seriously' take a look at their respective strike rates and given that he’s the incumbent and will be a team the start of the new season the shirt is MCBs to lose, as it should be.

That’s how I see it

MCB is a left wing not right.

In your spirit of being critical of others, do you seriously think Jowitt will replace Grix?

I think TJ will be the first name on the team sheet myself.

Don't they have humour in your world?

Thats what the smiley at the end was for.

Yo're still talking rubbish though - no sane person would leave TJ out - he's better than BJB and way better than MCB who was dropped in favour of Tupou for a while after the Hudds showing.





Seriously though if I were coach TJ would be the first player on the team sheet let alone winger - he's a pure winner and entertainer.

I agree with you about TJ being a winner and entertainer but he’s also been out for months with a serious injury, during that time MCB has been outstanding bar maybe one game.

If Johnstone had score s some of those long range acrobatic try’s that MCB scored we’d be raving about them.

It’s MCBs shirt to lose IMO and Johnstone Willie have to bide his time till his opportunity arises as MCB did last year. It will no doubt happen and Tom will take his opportunity I’m sure of it.

Jowitt for Grix?

In all honesty, Hooly is likely to get the gig before Max, he’s a better player.