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| Quote ="Willzay"TBf Wigg'n isn't being a sore loser have a look at his first post. I think Avenger and others have gone slightly over the top. I understand it's not everyday that Wakey put 62 on teams like Wigan but we should really reign it in a bit.'"
Please point out where you think I've gone over the top?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I like this one:
"I don't want to take anything away from Wakefield, let them enjoy their day and if they want to book their coaches to London, let them book them"
Keep it classy Shaun.'"
I'm still struggling to understand the London reference, did he think it was a cup game or am i missing something?
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| Isn't he just taking the urine out of us meaning we have just won our CUP Final against them hence the London trip quote, Wonder what will be in the Ref's report regarding what happen at half time allegedly.
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| I've never known a club in any sport like it. They are so convinced that it is simply their right to win matches and are so incapable of dealing with defeat that they have to release a video to their fans detailing their excuses.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Please point out where you think I've gone over the top?[/quot
I felt you went a tad overboard when Wigg'n laughed at the suggestion of Clubb and Mossop being international standard. But you know what? Forget it. The way that club is carrying over with their excuse and excuse I wouldn't mind us being "bad winners p" in this case. I just don't want to see Wakey fans doing what Leigh fans did last year.
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| Just shows that even with a team still capable of beating any other team once you lose the mental battle you're done.
Wakefield's turn around in confidence and from that playing great rugby with a desire to play for each other is good to see and they fully exploited any weaknesses physical or mental that Wigan had and battered them.
The thing i don't understand is if you have players that shouldn't have been out there as Wane alludes to then why risk their well-being, why not shove the less established junior 1st teamers in and ensure you give your betterplayers more time to recover?
Surely you do more damage by playing ill players in the medium to long term?
That Wigan have supposedly released a video to excuse away the defeat says it all.
Far better to be magnanimous.
I'd be saying sure we had a few injuries but we and that includes myself particularly let ourselves and our fans down but Wakefield played some fantastic rugby which exposed any weakness we had. We'll look at what went wrong, ensure the younger lads aren't disheartened because we all have being on the end of a belting and move on.
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| @knockersbumpMKII, the video by Radlinski explains why we had to field the ill players. We are at the full salary cap and had to request permission from the RFL to hand debuts to 2 players.
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| I thought by half time they had a serious case of the 5hits.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"@knockersbumpMKII, the video by Radlinski explains why we had to field the ill players. We are at the full salary cap and had to request permission from the RFL to hand debuts to 2 players.'"
Bretherton is in the Wigan first team squad so no permission needed for him. I assume Wells was the One you mention.
Of course it wouldn't have been needed if Farrell hadn't been banned, because of his own petulance. So I have no sympathy.
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| I think Radlinski's comments were much more respectful of Wakefield than Wane's were. He at least acknowledged that we played well.
The only thing missing was the phrase, we put that team out because, even though some had been ill, we still thought we could win, and we were wrong.
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| Quote ="PopTart":20j9kbf7I think Radlinski's comments were much more respectful of Wakefield than Wane's were. He at least acknowledged that we played well.'" "
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"He said exactly that in his post-match comments... selective reading yet again.
"I don’t want to take anything away from Wakefield though, they were very good [..."'"
"...so if they want to book their coaches to London, let them."
Which rather qualifies the apparent magnanimity of the first part of the sentence, don't you think?
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| Quote ="bren2k""...so if they want to book their coaches to London, let them."
Which rather qualifies the apparent magnanimity of the first part of the sentence, don't you think?'"
Not really, it's just banter. Like your fans singing that you're going to win the league. Unless you're all serious about that?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Not really, it's just banter. Like your fans singing that you're going to win the league. Unless you're all serious about that?'"
Why not, we've beaten 3 of last seasons top 4 in just over a fortnight so, it might just happen
Seriously though, Wane's "banter" was clearly being disrespectful but, the guy was never going to come out and say that Wigan gave up in the second half, having been comprehensively out played and out classed in every department.
FWIW there is no doubt that Wigan were weakened but, in previous seasons, they have fielded weaker teams against the likes of Wakefield and Widnes to rotate their squad and they've still usually come out on top but, not on Sunday.
The senior players that were out there gave up the fight and regardless of Wane's outward complacency, this will be a concern for him and everyone else associated with your club.
Champion teams don't usually throw in the towel.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Not really, it's just banter. Like your fans singing that you're going to win the league. Unless you're all serious about that?'"
It's banter when fans do it. It's disrespectful when a coach does it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's banter when fans do it. It's disrespectful when a coach does it.'"
Indeed. Though Wigg'n seems to blindly defend all things Wigan so he will no doubt streniously disagree.
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| Quote ="meast"I'm still struggling to understand the London reference, did he think it was a cup game or am i missing something?'"
I thought that at first, and then I began to wonder if he was slyly suggesting that Wakey shouldn't get too carried away as they will be travelling to London to play the Broncos in the middle 8s later in the season.
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| Quote ="Dux"I thought that at first, and then I began to wonder if he was slyly suggesting that Wakey shouldn't get too carried away as they will be travelling to London to play the Broncos in the middle 8s later in the season.'"
You think he's that smart?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Not really, it's just banter. Like your fans singing that you're going to win the league. Unless you're all serious about that?'"
Come on you can't believe that. He's welcome to have banter at the appropriate time and as the coach of the team that just got trounced the post match interview isn't the time. I've defended many of Wane's comments in the past but I doubt the best defense lawyer in the country couldn't defend that. It was disrespectful. Even if the scoreline were reversed it would be.
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| Wakefield beat Huddersfield with quite a few regulars out. Did they complain, no they didn't. Wakefield beat Leeds who were still struggling without Sinfield and Peacock. Did they complain? No( but their forum went into complete meltdown).
Something about this mysterious virus doesn't sit right with me. If they knew there was a virus going around why didn't they forfeit the match and pay whatever fine they had to instead letting players take the field and possibly spreading it to opposition players. And if they preferred to let players go on the field instead of forfeiting the match that would show IL and the Wigan club up in the worst possible light.
And therefore I believe there isn't a virus whatsoever. The video from KR was the biggest load of bull and they should've simply apologised for the performance and that would be that.
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| Quote ="vastman"You think he's that smart?'"
Haha ... well, whatever it was meant to mean, it didn't make sense.
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| I hope Wakefield went around the away dressing room and shared areas with detol. We don't want to be catching what they had.
...we can't afford the production costs for the video.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I hope Wakefield went around the away dressing room and shared areas with detol. We don't want to be catching what they had.
...we can't afford the production costs for the video.'"
If it's only the away dressing room, it would be best to keep out and leave the mystery virus for our next visitors to pick up.
Wakefield's detractors can add that to the list of excuses for not wanting to come to BV.
Denis Betts complained about the uneven surface, with real grass on it, a short while ago
Even though he's Widnes' coach now, maybe it's just a Wigan thing
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| Quote ="drdnght"I had some time over lunch so I looked back at all Wigan's fixtures so far (SL + WCC) to see how many times each player from our game had played this season.
Now that does not look like a team with 10+ players missing, ok 2 of the subs have not played but most have been part of the Wigan team so far this season.'"
From our board... Wane is just chatting bubbles as per usual
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| Yeah but they were missing Dom Crosby, come on!
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