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| Quote ="RB"Would you say the same thing about Ellery?'"
Why would I? Hanley was terrific for Balmain.
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| Quote ="RB"Would you say the same thing about Ellery?'"
No, because he forced his way into the Balmain team and was in Oz for a couple of years consecutively at Balmain and Wests and won the Golden Boot in 89 (a year he played at Wests).
Edwards couldn't make a first choice half back spot his own.
Why do you make the comparison?
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| Senior better than Newlove - WTF?!?
Newlove was an artist. Senior - a hod carrier. As for Connolly not doing much against the Aussies - I admit he was never a great attacking threat. But the point about Connolly is very few Aussies did anything against HIM. The guy was a straightjacket to his opponent.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"The point being - playing in Oz isn't the be all and end all and you don't have to have played there to be a top player.'"
It isn't the be all and end all but I think the fact that whenever Edwards stepped out of his comfort zone and up to world level he was proven to be waaay out of his deapth. Criminally overrated IMO.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"It isn't the be all and end all but I think the fact that whenever Edwards stepped out of his comfort zone and up to world level he was proven to be waaay out of his deapth. Criminally overrated IMO.'"
Hardly waaay out of his depth was he? Slight exaggeration there.
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| Quote ="RB"Hardly waaay out of his depth was he? Slight exaggeration there.'"
He was, he was 5hite. Worse than Long.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"He was, he was 5hite. Worse than Long.'"
Your making yourself look silly
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| Quote ="GB Lion"Your making yourself look silly'"
Why? Edwards is held up as some kind of all time greatest British scrum half, but when it came to having to do the business against the Aussies he was gash. Sheer gash. The only impact he ever made at test level was on Brad Clyde's face.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Why? Edwards is held up as some kind of all time greatest British scrum half, but when it came to having to do the business against the Aussies he was gash. Sheer gash. The only impact he ever made at test level was on Brad Clyde's face.'"
You could turn that round and say the same about Senior, but hang on he plays for Leeds.
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| Andy Farrell - 1992-2005 All at the very top
Kris Radlinski - 1993-2006 All at the very top
Keith Senior - 1995 - Present All at the very top
Paul Sculthorpe - 1996-2008 All at the very top
There are more. KC isnt some kind of god. Yes he has been a great clubman but his bottle as an international was pathetic and many lost a lot of respect for him for that.
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| Quote ="GB Lion"You could turn that round and say the same about Senior, but hang on he plays for Leeds.'"
Oh you are clutching at straws now kidda. I've stated evidence as to why Senior had a decent test career. Why don't you give me a couple of examples of Shaun's awsomeness for GB...
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Andy Farrell - 1992-2005 All at the very top
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Paul Sculthorpe - 1996-2008 All at the very top
There are more. KC isnt some kind of god. Yes he has been a great clubman but his bottle as an international was pathetic and many lost a lot of respect for him for that.'"
KC was better than Rads.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"KC was better than Rads.'"
On what basis? Completely different players and positions
If it went down to heart, passion, dedicaton and effort there wouldnt be many in world rugby that could top Rads.
Cunningham on the other hand, although a good un, has the heart of a pea when the going gets tough i.e against the aussies, got done for drugs and miraculously put about 3 stone on between 1994 and 1996 hmmmmmm (absolutely impossible)
not that I am getting at anything
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Oh you are clutching at straws now kidda. I've stated evidence as to why Senior had a decent test career. Why don't you give me a couple of examples of Shaun's awsomeness for GB...'"
How am I clutching at straws?
In my opinion Conolly and Newlove were both better Centres that Senior.
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| Quote ="GB Lion"How am I clutching at straws?
In my opinion Conolly and Newlove were both better Centres that Senior.'"
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| Quote ="GB Lion"In my opinion Conolly and Newlove were both better Centres that Senior.'"
Not at international level which is where most people base their opinions of quality on. I was a bigger threat to the try line at international level than Connolly.
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"...and miraculously put about 3 stone on between 1994 and 1996 hmmmmmm (absolutely impossible)'"
Is it b*llocks.
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Andy Farrell - 1992-2005 All at the very top
Kris Radlinski - 1993-2006 All at the very top
Keith Senior - 1995 - Present All at the very top
Paul Sculthorpe - 1996-2008 All at the very top
There are more. KC isnt some kind of god. Yes he has been a great clubman but his bottle as an international was pathetic and many lost a lot of respect for him for that.'"
KC - 1995 - present..all at the very top
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| I think the aussie and kiwi players have a better rating of Cunninghan than the people on this forum.
Some of the best NRL hookers have come over here in the past 5 years and they have not appeared better than Cunningham with the exception od Swain of Hull.
So I suspect he would have walked into any NRL side during his period of supremacy.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"KC - 1995 - present..all at the very top'"
er, yeh I think we already knew that one
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Is it b*llocks.
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no chance mate!
for a body builder, maybe. Who does nothing but eat, eat, eat and lift weights twice daily.
but for an athlete who spends every day doing cardio, not a chance.
he absolutely ballooned beyond belief
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"
If it went down to heart, passion, dedicaton and effort there wouldnt be many in world rugby that could top Rads.
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Interesting that you don't mention talent or ability there.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Interesting that you don't mention talent or ability there.'"
well it is difficult to compare a hooker and a full back. Both completely different. Im sure you dont need me to list the differences
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie" miraculously put about 3 stone on between 1994 and 1996 hmmmmmm (absolutely impossible)icon_smile.gif'"
I have a belly and a lovely pair of man-breasts I'm currently fondling which I acquired in the last three years and which says you are wrong.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"I have a belly and a lovely pair of man-breasts I'm currently fondling which I acquired in the last three years and which says you are wrong.'"
Are you a professional Rugby League player aswell then?
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