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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I dont hink it's picking Aussies that is the issue, although Hastings has been awful in the halves but, picking a HB on the wing has been utterly shocking.
Flying a second rower over to play centre was a poor call but, Austin on the wing, especially having flown a replacement accross, is one of the worst selections in the last 20-30 years.
Half of that side didn't look interested or enthusiastic last week and even fewer were bothered this morning.
We have no pace, no guile and no fecking guts.
"Great" Britain, no way, why on earth didn't they leave this antiquated brand in the cupboard.
Even our =#FF0000"much feared" pack looked slow and ordinary
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That pack has been outplayed in all four games, it's vastly overrated and too old. We should have been trying two or three younger forwards out in readiness for next year's ashes and the 2021 World Cup.
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| yep that should be the end of Graham and Hill and Hodgeson for me
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"I wouldn't put it all those players and that's just scapegoating.
The reality is take them out of the side and I don't see much difference to how this tour has played out.'"
That it my point they took the place of actual Britons and made no difference.
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| Bye bye Bennett.
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| We need a coach that will put pride back in the shirt and fire in the bellies of the players.
For me Bennett wanted them to play his structured brand of rugby league which quite frankly was soulless.
Wane would be my choice. Not the most attractive rugby but lets have a bit of pride in how we play.
Did this team ever get out of 2nd gear?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That pack has been outplayed in all four games, it's vastly overrated and too old. We should have been trying two or three younger forwards out in readiness for next year's ashes and the 2021 World Cup.'"
I am among the many who have posted that that entire squad made no sense:
Wingers - Surely we have better
Centre - Just one in the squad
Half backs - Why take so many to have some sat in the stands, or in the outside backs
Props - Needed to look to the future, Hill and Jammer shouldn't have been in the squad
Hooker - Clark either sat on the bench, or in the stand
Second Row - Selection of Bateman and Whitehead, probably about right, but why take Hughes to play at centre
Loose Forward - We need one with some handling ability
Missed opportunities to build for the 2021 World Cup. Even losing all four games, it may have been slightly more palatable if we'd have at least done so by planning for the future.
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| Totally disagree about building for the future. It’s the old trap British sport falls into. You should always play your strongest team but my all means bring hopefuls into the squad to permit smooth succession.
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| Great Britain and England will never improve unless there is money put into the non-heartland areas. I have posted about this in another thread.
However it is silly to dismiss the whole squad. The demise of both Samuel Burgess and Sean O'Loughlin in the same year has been a huge blow to the team's morale. Also the presence of Thomas Makinson, Mark Percival in the outside backs, and Samuel Tomkins (who was a star of the Downer Nines) in the halves, would have given the team a much better capability in attack.
It would be silly to dismiss John Bateman and Elliot Whitehead, who are both quality players. James Graham is getting on in years, but still deserves his place and the captaincy. Thomas Burgess is also okay, even if not great. We can hope that Luke Gale will be uninjured and recover his form of 2017 when he plays at Leeds next year. Those players could provide the core of the senior players in 2020.
It is worth contemplating that if France was given the chance to strengthen its roster, by having Toulouse in Super League, and Avignon at least in the Championship before getting promoted to Super League, and if England played at least two games a year against France (one in England, one in France), then the quality of the England team would also likely improve. The astute Ian Lenagan has suggested as much. But this aspect of development is going to take a few years, even if Toulouse joins Super League in 2021, which is not guaranteed.
A stronger England and France, with the possibility of a strong Canada and USA in ten years from now, would rejuvenate the international game. We cannot rely on the South Pacific as the only place for developing the game, because the Pacific islands, including PNG, don't have the financial resources, population, or sponsorship money to make the international game more profitable. The northern hemisphere is the region where the money and people are.
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| Quote ="Dally"Totally disagree about building for the future. It’s the old trap British sport falls into. You should always play your strongest team but my all means bring hopefuls into the squad to permit smooth succession.'"
We didn't pick the strongest squad to start with, and had either players who were out of form or out of position (sometimes both).
So much for smooth succession when you lose all four games. Bennett neither bothered with taking our strongest squad to the airport, nor bothered giving everyone in the squad game time. We got zip out of this tour, and the biggest lesson everyone's learned from it is that Bennett should be fired.
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| Bennett has completely undone all the good work and momentum started by McNamara.
We need to get shut now.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"We didn't pick the strongest squad to start with, and had either players who were out of form or out of position (sometimes both).
So much for smooth succession when you lose all four games. Bennett neither bothered with taking our strongest squad to the airport, nor bothered giving everyone in the squad game time. We got zip out of this tour, and the biggest lesson everyone's learned from it is that Bennett should be fired.'"
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Bennett has completely undone all the good work and momentum started by McNamara.
We need to get shut now.'"
Not necessarily true, he got us to a world cup final and won a series against NZ.
His position is pretty untenable as the GB coach now, but up until this season, he did take us forward.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Not necessarily true, he got us to a world cup final and won a series against NZ.
His position is pretty untenable as the GB coach now, but up until this season, he did take us forward.'"
In fairness to McNamara he got us within one play of a WC final and also beat NZ in a test series at home so if Bennett took us forward it was minimal.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"In fairness to McNamara he got us within one play of a WC final and also beat NZ in a test series at home so if Bennett took us forward it was minimal.'"
And possibly piggy backing the good work done by McNamara.
I'm struggling to get over just how poor GB were yesterday, a result that would have been unimaginable until the start of the series.
Not wishing to be disrespectful about PNG, who fully deserved their win but, they are a "tier 2" RL nation, only there "to make the numbers up".
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And possibly piggy backing the good work done by McNamara.
I'm struggling to get over just how poor GB were yesterday, a result that would have been unimaginable until the start of the series.
Not wishing to be disrespectful about PNG, who fully deserved their win but, they are a "tier 2" RL nation, only there "to make the numbers up".'"
We are tier 2 too.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Not necessarily true, he got us to a world cup final and won a series against NZ.
His position is pretty untenable as the GB coach now, but up until this season, he did take us forward.'"
Aye, a series against NZ reserves.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Aye, a series against NZ reserves.'"
Yep and we only just won the World Cup semi on a disputable call after collapsing in the last 15 minutes shipping points for fun against a tier 2 nation.
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| Fox sports news in Australia are defending Wayne Bennett stating that he did not select the G.B squad,apparently this was done by Sinfield and Peacock.
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| I love Sinfield as a player, but everything he has touched since then has turned into a disaster.
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| Quote ="fax-boys"Fox sports news in Australia are defending Wayne Bennett stating that he did not select the G.B squad,apparently this was done by Sinfield and Peacock.'"
If that's true all three should be asked to leave
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| We don't have selectors do we?
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| ONE person picked the squad and that was the coach , some on here just want to create mischief with out and out lies
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"ONE person picked the squad and that was the coach , some on here just want to create mischief with out and out lies'"
How’s the weather in New Zealand Kevin?
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| I was in p.n.g
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| i dont think the players are as bad as this farce looks.... with a British coach (probably Wane) behind them... This team, with the right players selected, could be a strong outfit.
Not one single players was happy on this tour. That's all down to bennett.
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