As Ken Davys Physician I assumed you were under an hypocratic oath!

Not read the end of my thread then??

However this topic is about clubs 'filling up' on overseas players (and resorting to macedonian passports)

I am happy that the club are doing well on a number of fronts.

I certainly do not worry about such things, it would do me no good and make no difference to the club.

=redI am not interested in guessing what you know / do not know, thanks.

=redI am happy that the club are doing well on a number of fronts.=red I am sufficiently aware of sport / the arts etc to know that clubs have many sources of funds that may be fickle or who's loss would undermine the whole organisation.=red I certainly do not worry about such things, it would do me no good and make no difference to the club



Back to school MG!

Nothing to say on having 10 / 11 non fed trained players? No surprise there.

Back to tugging your forlock TRB

Now you are learning something.

here is your answer!

I am happy that the club are doing well on a number of fronts.

I certainly do not worry about such things, it would do me no good and make no difference to the club.

Maybe Marsden Giant should ring the club and ask for answers.

As 'mere' fans we don't know half of the 'goings on' at the club.
Unless of course its just MG's personal vendetta against anything Wakefield?

One does wonder.

As I said, you are learning. Splendid,

Does one? Wow.

Amazing how some wakey fans write about vendettas! My comments have been about your finances (where most wakey fans were denying there was a probem) Winterstein (taking on overseas reserve graders when you have loads of overseas players) and now Stosic and 10 / 11 overseas players. All legit RL and hardly a vendetta

Some wakey fans seem touchy.

The last 2 points are the same theme. And the theme of this thread.

Sure have - for those sensible enough to understand it!

Yeah yeah. Or perhaps those gullible enough to believe it. Careful with the forlock old chap

I will - old chap!

Amazing indeed.

Agreed

Definition of vendetta
A situation in which someone has angry and negative feelings towards someone else and keeps trying to harm them or to cause problems for them
[iSource: Macmillan Dictionary[/i

Condemned by your own words!

I can't be bothered searching for all the other threads you've jumped on with your negativity towards Wakefield

signing seven of our own academy into the first team with at least another four next season i would guess(from this seasons side) is a fantastic thing for the british game, however they can not all be stuck straight into the first team so bringing in some experienced player seems sensible dosent it?

cant see how this long term strategy can possibly be a bad thing

what are your club doing to promote the young british talent

In fairness though as mentioned we have lost several of our young british talents Atkins and Grix for instance, so i'll make a swift 2 points -

1) Who is there around at the moment who Wakey could afford, who would not be a massive loss of ability in either positon and from the UK?

2) I believe that there isn't anyone who meets all 3 of the above criteria and therefore i would rather see a proven overseas player there, than some average youth who is in the team for no other reason than he is British.

Having said that though, I do agree that 10 overseas players is going against the spirit of the quota system and the new forward thinking that is becoming more prevalent in the game in general.

And really, we arn't that much more guilty than any other team, its the whole thing needs looking at and the rules on overseas players tightening up.

agree 100% got to say the rules at the moment are there to be bent broken however you look at them, its about time there was a blanket block, no more than 4 overseas players, irrespective of where they are from. overseas is any country or continent not directly connected with GB. how simple is that not Franks grandad came from Azerbajan, or Peters great great grandma was from Outer Mongolia.....

that really isnt the issue is it, Wakefield dont deserve an advantage because they were embarrasingly poor previously, and in effect thats what you would get

Clubs for too long have been protected from their own incompetence and that really is terrible for the game as a whole

if Wakefield using 10/11 overseas players next season finish 8th ahead of a club who use say 6 overseas players, that other club has been punished by giving something back to the game, where is their reward for investing in our games future?

why wouldnt that clubs management then think sod this bringing through youngsters and giving them a chance malarky, Wakefield are getting all the benefits of play off rugby by spending less on some mediocre imports, lets get rid of these youngsters who [imight[/i take us to play off rugby and spend the money on these Aussies who [iwill[/i take us to play off rugby instead

if Wakefield have to be for a season or two to bring through their talent, so be it, thats how it works, if you need to play a player not quite as good as an import you could get, good, then a club who has invested in developing youngsters, and who has given a chance to british youngsters will get their reward and you will get yours

whilst Wakefields fans are defending their club, think of it another way, how will they feel if they lose out on a play off spot to a club with 14 overseas players? what if every team just says sod it and employs a squad full of overseas players then Wakefield are still left at the bottom because they cant spend as much as everyone else, so other teams get better imports and we are back where we started but with more imports and nobody has benefitted

its shameful form, that clubs are using loopholes like these, but they are only of a benefit whilst other clubs dont use them, they are punishing clubs for doing what we want them to do

They are not loopholes - they are the rules under which we all operate. The rules are designed to protect the employment of previously existing players, and once they have gone we will all have reduced levels as the rules have been tightened severely - which is right.

In the meantime, Wakefield have improved their junior development beyond any other club - so in that sense we are doing at least as much, if not more, to develop the quality and quantity of player production than all the other clubs at SL level - so what't the problem exactly?

no they are loopholes, they are actions contrary to the spirit of the rules, rules put in place to increase the number of british youngsters in the game, not the number of Australians who can get a macedonian passport, the rules werent put in place to protect new players who can get a passport for a country we legally cannot stop earning a living here

in the meantime, Wakefield can surely rely on their youngsters, or if not suffer the consequences of not putting the effort into junior development earlier

and the problem is Wakefield signing of players like Stosic ahead of british players makes it harder for other clubs to sign british youngsters ahead of players like Stosic

again, the only reason Wakefield need to keep a player like Stosic is because some others dont follow the same route

if all clubs acted like Wakefield, then Wakefield would be back at the bottom as others could spend more on more and better imports