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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Alot of racism on this thread.'"
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Alot of racism on this thread.'"
I'm struggling to find any racist comments, care to point them out?
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"I remember when we were at Headingly last season, he came on, touched the ball once, yes, once, and then went off.
Even Feka puts in more of a stint than that.'"
Do you remember the last 3 GF'S when he played a part in dismantling the "mighty S"
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Do you remember the last 3 GF'S when he played a part in dismantling the "mighty S"
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If it wasn't for Bailey, we'd have won all three finals, no doubt about it.
I think he did very well to convert from prop to wing/fullback and the name change to Lee Smith has done him no end of good.
I wish Smith (nee Bailey) all the best in RU.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"edit tb'"
Damo that shoulder barge is the worst kind of attack apart from a deliberate punch/knee/head butt, If you have played the game you know the reason why its done and if like a well aimed punch its consequences, the sooner this sort of "non tackle" is deemed illegal the better, no attempt is made in that or another shoulder barge to tackle a player it is banned in RU as they understand why it is done. No skill is needed to perform it; maybe that’s why bailey is obviously good at it!!!!!!!
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| what an absolutely hilarious thread!
Can we put an end to it by simply saying everyone in everyone's team is the hardest and fairest and every player you have or have ever had is a 'true' RL hardman even when they have been guilty of idiotic, thuggish or cowardly acts. And everyone in everyone elses team is simply thuggish and cowardly
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
I'd rather Graham/Fas/Fozzard/Puletua/Clough propped at Saints than Bailey, he just isn't very good.'"
Probably why you've lost the last 3 grand finals.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Probably why you've lost the last 3 grand finals.'"
Do you not grasp the fact that you would have been even better over the past few years with another player in his shirt? You lot suggest he was 'immense' in the GF, when in fact he did bob all as usual.
Leeds are an incredible side, Bailey is your worst player by an incredible distance. I'll be shocked if he's still in the 17 with your pack all fit.
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| Check the thugs stats. They are comparable with those heavyweights of the prop world, Paul King and Craig Huby
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| Quote ="Saddened!"icon_lol.gif
Do you not grasp the fact that you would have been even better over the past few years with another player in his shirt? You lot suggest he was 'immense' in the GF, when in fact he did bob all as usual.
Leeds are an incredible side, Bailey is your worst player by an incredible distance. I'll be shocked if he's still in the 17 with your pack all fit.'"
TBF, Ablett is probably still worse than Bailey.
And Damo, don't you think thats taking it a bit far? Comparing the Rhinos to the A Team is just ridiculous. I know Bailey may look a bit like BA, but believe me, he has none of the attributes.
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| Quote ="tigerman1+1"Damo that shoulder barge is the worst kind of attack apart from a deliberate punch/knee/head butt, If you have played the game you know the reason why its done and if like a well aimed punch its consequences, the sooner this sort of "non tackle" is deemed illegal the better, no attempt is made in that or another shoulder barge to tackle a player it is banned in RU as they understand why it is done. No skill is needed to perform it; maybe that’s why bailey is obviously good at it!!!!!!!'"
Would that be the same "shoulder barge" that everyone creamed over SBW delivering in the WCC at Elland Road to Marcus Bai? You know, the one that left Bai concussed. I seem to remember the majority view at the time being that it showed how rock hard and brilliant Williams was.
Those who go on about Bailey "being a thug" and "hiding" in that game might want to watch the next couple of minutes after the incident with Fa'asavalu. IIRC the next Leeds set Saint Kieron of Pukka attempts to twist a Leeds player's head off in a grapple. Leeds kick to touch and first up from the tap restart is Bailey, who runs 20 yards infield to go straight at James Graham who had been doing his usual jaw flapping.
Doesn't sound like a player who "goes hiding" to me, but hey what would I, Tony Smith, Brian McLennan and David Waite (IIRC - think Waite was in charge when Bailey played for GB) know about it compared to you folks?
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| Dont forget the other myth that Bailey was "taught a lesson" by Sculthorpe, what actually happened was that Sculthorpe punched him several times off the ball whilst Bailey kept his cool and didnt retaliate, then the coward referee did nothing to sculthorpe because it was at Knowsley Road
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"first up from the tap restart is Bailey, who runs 20 yards infield to go straight at James Graham who had been doing his usual jaw flapping.'"
I seem to remember a camp cross field run and him falling on his backside almost untouched. But hey don't let that clowd matters.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I seem to remember a camp cross field run and him falling on his backside almost untouched. But hey don't let that clowd matters.'"
You'll have been too busy abusing the match officials and shouting "fooooorwaaaaard" to take notice of what was happening on the pitch, don't let your poor recollection worry you.
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"Dont forget the other myth that Bailey was "taught a lesson" by Sculthorpe, what actually happened was that Sculthorpe punched him several times off the ball whilst Bailey kept his cool and didnt retaliate, then the coward referee did nothing to sculthorpe because it was at Knowsley Road'"
Kept his cool.
Bailey didn't know what day it was, let alone keep his cool.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Kept his cool.
Bailey didn't know what day it was, let alone keep his cool.'"
Aye, well done to that paragon of virtue and well known upholder of the one true faith Paul Sculthorpe eh - what was it Andy Farrell called him in that brawl again?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Would that be the same "shoulder barge" that everyone creamed over SBW delivering in the WCC at Elland Road to Marcus Bai? You know, the one that left Bai concussed. I seem to remember the majority view at the time being that it showed how rock hard and brilliant Williams was.
Those who go on about Bailey "being a thug" and "hiding" in that game might want to watch the next couple of minutes after the incident with Fa'asavalu. IIRC the next Leeds set Saint Kieron of Pukka attempts to twist a Leeds player's head off in a grapple. Leeds kick to touch and first up from the tap restart is Bailey, who runs 20 yards infield to go straight at James Graham who had been doing his usual jaw flapping.
Doesn't sound like a player who "goes hiding" to me, but hey what would I, Tony Smith, Brian McLennan and David Waite (IIRC - think Waite was in charge when Bailey played for GB) know about it compared to you folks?'"
Andy i have never condoned ANY player amature or pro delivering a shoulder barge, in my eyes its a cheap shot. you wont find me "creaming" over anyone receiving an attack from a shoulder barge, as you have witnessed it is done to cause injury usually a facial or concussion one and sometimes a shoulder one to the so called defender......a poor excuse for a tackle by any player.
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| have a look on a well known video hosting website and search for bailey and rauhihi, and see how quickly our Ry can back pedal when required.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Aye, well done to that paragon of virtue and well known upholder of the one true faith Paul Sculthorpe eh - what was it Andy Farrell called him in that brawl again?'"
Not sure what he called him to be honest, couldn't give a toss, was a couple of beauties from Scully though.
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| Ryan Bailey is the greatest wind up merchant in the world. People bang on about how he goes hiding etc. He goes hiding after sparking something off so the opposition can't get a return hit on him, not because he's soft but before he knows it'l put the opposition off their game plan.
I wouldn't swap Ryan for anyone.
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"I wouldn't swap Ryan for anyone.'"
Get a grip. So if you were offered Bailey for Burgess in a straight swap? Or Bailey for Graham? Or Bailey for Bailey (NRL stylee)? Or Bailey for Morley? Or Bailey for LMS? Or Bailey for Price?
You're having a giraffe.
When things go slightly off course at Leeds, like the annual exit from the Challenge Cup, he is the first name Leeds fans look to in order to blame the defeats on someone. Yet when you win the GF, it's because Ryan was 'immense'.
I bet he did no more than 5 hit ups in the GF, and I bet he walked more metres to pick up his medal than he made during the game.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Not sure what he called him to be honest, couldn't give a toss, was a couple of beauties from Scully though.'" it wasnt though was it
Sculthorpe was more than capable of unleashing a couple of beauties, but those really werent. A Punch at a player playing the ball that simply knocked the player into the player behind him wasnt Sculthorpes proudest moment.
Look at him against Australia (Fitzgibbon i think) to see Sculthorpe unleash a couple of beauties, his handbags against Bailey wouldnt even merit a mention if it wasnt Bailey he had hit.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Get a grip. So if you were offered Bailey for Burgess in a straight swap? Or Bailey for Graham? Or Bailey for Bailey (NRL stylee)? Or Bailey for Morley? Or Bailey for LMS? Or Bailey for Price?
You're having a giraffe.
When things go slightly off course at Leeds, like the annual exit from the Challenge Cup, he is the first name Leeds fans look to in order to blame the defeats on someone. Yet when you win the GF, it's because Ryan was 'immense'.
I bet he did no more than 5 hit ups in the GF, and I bet he walked more metres to pick up his medal than he made during the game.'"
There you go again mis-quoting no-one has said we won the GF'S because of him nor that he's the best prop around
He played well in those games but none of you Bailey haters will admit that you'd just prefer to chelp about what you think he is.
As for his hit-ups in the last GF watch it again and watch how batters your mob in defence and virtually walks over the invisible man.
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| The key word here is team, obviously. Ryan Bailey may not be the best individual prop around, but his job in the team that's won the last 3 GF's is pretty well-defined. Most of the the better individual props named will probably never win 4 GF winners medals for as long as they play.
I think that's what the Stains fans are having trouble grasping. Hope this helps.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So if you were offered Bailey for Burgess in a straight swap? Or Bailey for Graham? '"
If James Graham or Sam Burgess were prepared to come to Leeds for Bailey's supposed salary then yes, I'd consider swapping him them.
Then again, salary cap management isn't the sort of thing that St Helens have got a very good grasp of really is it?
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