awww, you spoilt it, I was hoping Cokey would be first to respond, me being a troll and all.

of course I was joking!

Surely this needs sorting out the sooner the better. Be interesting to see how they handle it.

Cokey knows better.

IF TWP pull out it has to be either Toulouse or London

The last thing SL needs is another crappy little team from Yorkshire

hmmmm

one thing for sure, the RFL/SL have made a complete balls up of the current situation, clusterferk springs to mind!

Purely out of interest IR80 what conditions would you evaluate a club against re obtaining/maintaining a franchise? On the same basis as last time around?

I agree though, if expansion is to ever truly work in our game I can only see it with a good solid franchising model, unfortunately you then take out some of the excitement that a promotion and relegation model brings.

Sadly..Chances are they are doomed..

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Yeah I don’t know which way this will go. But if they remain in SL I feel minimum, a points deduction will be thrown their way. Effectively delaying the inevitable.

As much as my lis of clubs was tongue in cheek, the franchising comment was not. The criteria has to start with a solid, properly financed, business model, development strategies from school initiatives, involvement with local grass routes at all ages, an academy and a first team. Security of tenure on your ground, minimum 20 years from day one, salary cap set as a %ge of income. BUT it will never happen, because that is how a business would run, and sport is not a business in the pure sense.

As you rightly say, that just wouldn't sit right.
As beaten finalists, Fev are next in line.
That Toronto beat other clubs along the way is immaterial, Fev were the next highest rated club in The Championship.

Agreed it would only be fair..

and go down after one season...

It isn’t immaterial one bit. I highly doubt this would be the criteria they would use anyway. They’re the highest ranked club because TWP were the other finalists. Toronto didn’t just beat Featherstone, they took away a teams chances in the semi final too. If you want to go along the lines of saying “the next highest team should take their place”, there’s a lot more to it than that

This isn’t an attack on Fev or the club one bit at all. But throwing them into super league as beaten finalists wouldn’t be the way to go.

Go to 11 teams or pick a team that ticks more criteria than others.

It’s just a total mess with me thinking the likely option is that the RFL will give Toronto their super league place next season. But probably along with that some sort of decent points deduction.

In the final championship league placings Fev finished behind Toronto Toulouse York city knights and Leigh Centurions, meaning they actually finished in 5th at the end of the regular season, they won their place in the final of the knockouts, but they were still only the 5th best side in the comp. so don't you think that flaws your argument somewhat?.

No, the 'winners of SL' are the team that wins at OT, Grand Fonal night, Brdford once won from fifth, ,,,,,beat Hull 71 NIL if I recall. Winners are grinners, but next best are the team that plays the final game, the time building up to the that game is important, perhaps more important OFF the field than on....but important.

Present shiiiiite is more about what clubs bring off of the field, as much as on.

Fev should go up... BUT BULLS will. Why? The reason the game exists. Sport and money.

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Have great week Ladies & Gents.

Why should fev go up?

Let’s have yet another northern pit town with 30 fans on sky with a load of semi pro players. That will raise the profile of the game

But it’s ok cos “hEaRtLaNdS”

It's only fair. They were the next best 'team' last year. FACT.

What exactly moved and has it got there yet?

Louis Jouffret signed.

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He seems to be jumping the gun on "meeting the team"............ he is the team



Thanks for that we can see where this all goes, which will be fascinating given the collapse of TWP.

Sad, sad, sad parochial xenophobe, whippet walk time?

It really is a shame we still have people who (claim to) support our great game, but cannot see beyond the end of their nose.

I don't think they'll get kicked out myself, i think a club MIGHT come in for the rest of the year but that would be it.

I don't think they'll get kicked out myself, i think a club MIGHT come in for the rest of the year but that would be it.

Should rule out Bradford then