I have just asked mi Geordie mucker to have a look at this and his conclusions ''Youre a right one eyed e stirring bugga''

Hull's games moved back to Sundays in 2012, but the crowds didn't increase, the away crowds still didn't turn up, and the club finds it a lot easier to sell corporate tickets on a Friday night than on a Sunday (as people prefer to take clients out after work, rather than spend a day of their weekend 'working') and it means less games are re-arranged for TV.

Friday night away games are a pain for me too, but I can see why the clubs do it.

I don't understand what the issue is. Surely the total number of people watching super league on Sky has gone up this season since they are showing more super league games due to the Catalan home games also being televised.

I preferred it when the old Crusaders played on Friday nights because it left the weekend free.

Or maybe you meant the other AA



I give credit where it's due, and you're almost in a premier league of your own in exhaustively analyzing these figures, bravely disregarding the fact that there's actually no point. You are the lone trans-Atlantic rower of this kind of thing and if I had a hat, I'd take it off. Sadly though, to a degree I share similarly anal traits so even though I may on occasion seem harsh, I do sympathise.

1. Round 8 was just before Easter when 5 of the 7 league games were on a Friday night including the aforementioned Warrington v Hull KR game and also when Wigan, St Helens, Leeds, Bradford and Castleford were all at home.

2. Bradford were only on sky 4 times; Wakefield away on a Thursday, Hull KR at home on a Friday night, Magic Weekend and Catalan away. The reduction in sky showing the Bulls is as good as any rationale to explain the decline in Super League viewing figures.

Case closed...

You'd be amazed at who dine off the table of my 'Premier League-esque' geeky stat SL attendance or viewing figure offerings, then go away, make a few little changes and claim them as their very own 'revealing' work.

[url=http://www.totalrl.com/opinion-thursday-night-super-league-run-course/I'm sure this latest effort is just mere coincidence though[/url.

Take solice in the fact that SL on paytv in UK is far more popular than Super15 on paytv in Australia!

Sky has 10.5 million subscribers in the UK.

Foxtel has 2.5 million subscribers in Australia.

You need to factor in the huge difference in subscriber bases when comparing the viewing figures.

Australia also has a smaller population; UK 64 million, Aus 23 million. UK's 2.78 times more.

If both were comparable then Australia's figures (multiplying by 2.7icon_cool.gif it would only be around 155k, which isn't massively more significant tbh - certainly for the big games here.

I find it amazing how RU still survives in Australia

It lives off the international game. Theres a good piece in todays uk telegraph about the guy who owns bath rfu.......no owner of a.union club expects to.ever get their money back......hes worth over a billio.and hes prepared to bankroll them to success.

Does he go to games or is he like that French bloke? You know your games sht when even your owner won't watch it!

NRL avg's 240k a game on pay TV,if you want to compare oranges and oranges, yes four times the union avg! Chuck,in the avg 900k on fta TV for NRL and you can see just how much of a small cousin union is down under.

155k is still higher than the SL average on Sky which is 135k this season.

Another comparison would be to use the aforementioned Foxtel figures based on 2.5 million subscribers Vs Sky UK's 10.5 million subscribers, therefore multiply by 4.2 and the figure would be 230k.

Makes. Of sense, if you want to watch the game you will, if there is 1mill, 10mill or 100mill subscribers. As I stated NRL avg 240k so it isn't about number of subscribers but how many people are watching the game.

No one likes watching Rugby Union in the North of England, that's why its a Southern based sport confined to the M4 corridor.

What's the NRL got to do with it?

May I remind you what you posted earlier?

Because you brought up a pointless argument about subscription numbers.

As I said take solice that even with the slight drop off twice as many people in UK watch SL than watch super15 in Australia.

I'm sure its been mentioned in the 9 page measuring contest of a thread, but Thursday games dont inspire anyone. Much prefered the Saturday early evening games to watch on Sky

Geography not your strong point then?

Barb showing 315,000 for the Grand Final, up 14% from 2013 but the 4th lowest figure over the last 10 years. ITV 4 showed Poland v Germany soccer at the same time as the GF and they got 580,000........I'd love to see the GF showed on delay on FTA.......start it as the final whistle goes.

The NZRU do this here with the games shown Live on Pay TV and then delayed on a FTA station (owned by sky). Sky wouldn't lose any viewers but the sport would benefit from the additional exposure.

Except nobody watches they sky fta channels in this country so it would be of 0 benefit

we would be far better trying to get the magic weekend on sky 1

Sky 1 and Pick TV get roughly the same amount of viewers but I suppose it might get more prominence on Sky 1.

To be honest the only way to really reach people is to get it on either BBC, ITV, C4 or C5.