This is the problem we have, Senior and Gleeson, IMO, are still the best 2 centres we have. Shenton will improve at Saints but the other pretenders are just that. I can't make my made up about Bridge, Atkins is not good enough, Yeaman has had plenty of chances but in fairness his form is starting to improve again.

It's people like you who sometimes make me embarrassed to be a Wire fan.

1 word for you mate. Tool! id like to see you playing like ryan does.

okay.
We'll see when the 4 nations team is picked.
Bridge will be there Atkins wont.
Im just extremely honest and tell it like it is.
In the meantime we'll count how many tries Atkins bombs in the coming weeks and i'll accept your apologies come saay 4 nations time?

Lets end this once and for all...

Myler is not good enough. He's not the first Myler to have an inflated reputation eithre.
Ryan Fall (over the line) is not good enough. Or fast enough. He just happens to play outside an outstanding centre.
Same goes for Aidy Gardner.
McGuire only plays well when he's with Rob Burrow. He's shiit when he's with anyone else - but I wouldn't pick Burrow ahead of either Sam Tomkins or Eastmond, so he's out.
Pryce is too old. Same with Peacock - but he's injured anyway so it doesn't matter.
Widdop is untested. A good first half against France and the fact he plays in Australia doesnt make him an instant selection. Put him on the bench and see how he goes.
James Graham needs to keep his dummy in and remember he's a prop, not a stand off. Drive the ball in and tackle. That is all.

Widdop
Smith
Shenton
Bridge
Hall
Sinfield
Eastmond
Lynch
Diskin
Graham
Ellis (c)
Burgess
J. Tomkins

S. Tomkins
Crabtree
Morley
Westwood

It doesn't matter who we pick - we won't beat the Aussies or the Kiwi's.

Im just hoping it goes better than the last time in Aus.. but agree we dont stand a chance over there.

I think Tomkins has it to be a class fullback however I wouldn't mind Lee Smith given a go. Smith's not a centre at Int level but he'd make a good fb imo. Problem is players should be picked in positions they play at club level.. unless your names Leon Pryce.. in which case somebody tell him he's playing at 4!

Pryce at four, must be joking, when we have quality with the likes of Bridge and Atkins.

To be honest, I'd rather see Atkins play like Greg Inglis does

Sam Tomkins

Tom Briscoe
Michael Shenton
Ryan Atkins
Ryan Hall

Richard Myler
Kyle Eastmond

Andy Coley
James Roby
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Sam Burgess

Kevin Sinfield

Bench:-
Danny Houghton
Ben Westwood
Eorl Crabtree
Adrain Morley

Squad
Sean O'Loughlin
Chris Riley
Chris Bridge
Ben Harrison
Jon Wilkin
Danny Tickle
Lee Smith
Kevin Brown
Shaun Lunt
Peter Fox
Brett Ferres
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Jodie Broughton

im not talking about him playing like inglis does, every rugby player have thier own qualities, i was talking about this dick of a "warrington fan" slating ryan!

Not watched much rugby this year then?

Change your tampon.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, you're just wrong. Im not calling you names for your stupidity. Grow up a bit.

You obviously haven't, being a saints fan.

1.Widdop
2.Broughton
3.Smith
4.Shenton
5.Hall
6.Maguire
7.Tomkins
8.Graham
9.Roby
10.Burgess
11.J Tomkins
12.Ellis
13.Sinfield

14.Eastmond
15.Harrison
16.Morley
17.Manu

Not as much as I'd like to live, with it being a 450 mile round trip, no.

Although I doubt either of us travel to watch Leeds in games not involving our team, so I've probably seen as much of McGuire as you have (or more judging by the fact you seem to think his good season is based on playing alongside Rob Burrow).

Need half backs with Flair

so Eastmond and Tomkins for me

Need a FB with pace who will take the line on, that leaves Widdop

Gleeson and Shenton in centres, Bridge on bench

Briscoe and Atkins on the wings

Morley, Graham, Crabtree props

Roby at 9, but with creativity at Halves not 100%, maybe a great defender with a bit of a nasty streak is needed

Burgess, Ellis, OLoughlin, Tomkins back 3, westwood harrison on bench

There's not many 21 year olds who had reached their potential at that age. I'm willing to give him a couple of years before we dump him on the scrapheap.




Agreed about Gardner. Although he's improved his all round game over the years I have never rated him as an out and out winger. I disagree on Hall. I think he's a the best we have, strong, reliable and unless I'm totally mistaken I thought he at least had some wheels on him.





Bo11ocks. I'm not McGuire's biggest fan but he's played with Sinfield most of this season and has been arguably Leeds best performer. I wouldn't pick him at International level granted, but to claim he's only good with Burrow next to him is rubbish.



Leon Pryce is 28. If that is the reason you wouldn't pick him for England then you need a serious word with yourself.
Are you seriously advocating not choosing Peacock if he was fit? Who would you play? Coley or Fielden?






Put a fullback on the bench? Good one. Widdop has done everything asked of him and save for putting Leon Pryce at 1 (apparently he's over the hill at 2icon_cool.gif what's our next option? Wellens has never excelled at International leveland he's still comfortably the best 1 in Britain.



Thank f*ck you're not the coach. Would you take the mongrel out of Wayne Rooney? Would he be the same player?

Graham's passing close to the line results in plenty of clean breaks for the likes of Wellens, Roby et al at Saints and it offers us something different.

1. Widdop
2. Briscoe
3. Atkins
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. S. Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. Graham
9. Lunt
10. Lynch
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin

14. Roby
15. J.Tomkins
16. Morley
17. Fielden

myler isnt international standard he made a name at salford as we was in nl1 then we got a license to super league and was no way near as dangerous so putting him in against the aussies and the kiwis isnt a good idea and defensively isnt the best either

ill take my tampon out when you take the stick from up your . Dick by name, dick by nature.

Stick well and truly removed.
You're still wrong though.